Alain Ravet > OK, shoot me. Or ignore me. How about a 3rd option...a rebuttal?
> You don't mix up requirements collections with time, cost, architecture and > technology. You just tell what you need. But IntelliJ DOES need to know what people want...and what they DON'T want is JUST as important. Should they implement every feature that ONE person requests? No...not if everyone else doesn't want it. How else will they know if we don't tell them? > I say type 1 people are wrong, and here is why: > > point 1 : Intellij development team size is not your business. It's theirs. But they (like everybody) have limited resources...for every hour they spend on one feature...it's one hour less they have to spend on other features...it's the basic law of limited resources...and we all have to live with it. They need to know what features are most important to the greatest number of users (assuming that increasing market penetration is the goal). > 2 : have some faith, in Intellij, your VM vendor and Intel > (or..). Don't tell me me you fear they would have to rewrite in in C. What does this have to do with anything? I'm sure Intel will make a faster processor next year...but that doesn't mean I'll have one...and many of us do not have the authority to buy ourselves new hardware whenever we want. > Look at Together : it's big, it's fast, and it does code auditing. point Huh? TogetherJ is the biggest dog I've ever run...do you have a new top-secret 576 GHz Pentium XIV and you're not telling us? > 3 : Who cares if the next EAP is 20M big. If you download the eap build > at 56K, poor you. This is 2001, year of cable speed, cheap hard disk > and cheap memory. I doubt bandwidth is the concern with most people...as a general rule, BIG=SLOW...unless you have unlimited memory. > I say type 2 people are right. > IDEA is a tool, and I use it to solve problems, using java technology. > Java technology is becoming more complex by the day. > Why does IDEA force me to edit all those xml configuration files as ascii > text? Do you really think it's less important than tweeking the Search > function? Yes! I really do think that! I use the search functions a several times every hour. I've edited the configuration files once. No contest. > BTW, I wonder why it was so urgent to integrate .. > CVS : I still use WinCVS, next to IDEA, because... well, you know... > JUnit : it just brought very very little extra confort, but absolutely no > new functionalilty. > SourceSafe : see CVS, above. Even with VB, I know many programmers who > preferred > to use the standalone, non integrated version. They still do, with > IDEA, and > they don't plan to change. Now you DON'T want all these tools integrated? You're sounding like your 'type 1' category person?!? Which are you? Make up your mind. > - simple UML class diagram : I hate having to launch together just to > have a quick 1 mile high view of the structure. But you just said that you wanted source control and unit testing run separately -- not in IDEA?!? Which is it? Besides, I thought you said Together was fast? Doesn't it lauch instantly? Maybe you need a nice SMALL, FAST uml diagrammer... ;) > We have to think ROI here, guys. > I'm sure you could tweek the editor till 2010, but it wouldn't help us > write better software. The editor is no longer n�1 when you think ROI. It's > almost good enough. ROI = Return On Investment If the editor tweaks helps me work faster...then I can develop the same software at a lower cost. This increases ROI. Do the math! sheeesh... > PS: I'm not sure feature request voting would be such a good idea. This > list is where things happens. Here, when you say +1, you must say why. But feature voting with a 'comments' field would accomplish the same thing. In summary, I must say that I couldn't disagree more! IntelliJ obviously wants our feedback...thus the creation of these forums. We each have a duty to tell them what is important in our buying decisions. ********************************* Chris Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ********************************* _______________________________________________ Eap-features mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features
