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I'd like to see it changed, as well.  However, since I don't use the "undocked" panes, it will sound a bit myopic.
 
Why not use a pop-up dialog instead of an undocked pane?
 
The metaphor I try to reconcile this with is the one used in the MS VB studio.  Granted, they have "floating" panels/toolbars, but when I "dock" something I expect it to stay put.
 
I'd prefer to see (or be able to configure the app such that) every one of the view tabs on a side share the same area (size, placement).  I'd suggest something akin to the CardPanel for that:  http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/articles/cardpanel/index.html  If I hide the panel, only THEN will the editor widen up to take the available real estate.  Otherwise, if I switch from Source to ClassPath to Project, only the contents of the panel will change and no visible juggling will occur.  (The same goes for the bottom and right side views, although I hide these when I'm done with them.)
 
This is only my $0.01 -- I hope it is not too confusing.  I am lucky to run at 1600x1200 res so I know that others will not want the panes to always be docked.
 
-sms
-----Original Message-----
From: Vollmer, Thomas - CannonSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:33 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Docked and Undocked...

That reminds me: I have the Project, Structure and Classpath pane
undocked and only the Source pane docked (and not auto-hiding).
 
Suppose only the Source pane is shown (my default state).
 
Then, consider the following (unexpected) sequence of events:
1. Click Project pane. Project pane opens.
2. Click Structure pane. Project pane closes. Structure pane opens.
3. Click Classpath pane. Structure pane closes. Classpath pane opens.
4. Click Classpath pane. Classpath pane closes. Structure pane opens.
5. Click Structure pane. Structure pane closes. Project pane opens.
6. Click Project pane. Project pane closes.
 
I would have expected the following:
1. Click Project pane. Project pane opens.
2. Click Structure pane. Project pane closes. Structure pane opens.
3. Click Classpath pane. Structure pane closes. Classpath pane opens.
4. Click Classpath pane. Classpath pane closes.
 
My mental model is that only one undocked pane can be visible at
the same time and if I close whichever one is visible, none of
them is visible.
 
Something similar happens with docked panes being opened "on top
of each other". It seems to keep some kind of stack or something...
 
I'd like to have this changed. What do others think?
 
BTW, I never have any pane docked and auto-hiding.
Is anybody doing this?
 
Regards.
-Thomas
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Belyaev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Docked and Undocked...

Auto-hiding panels hide automatically when they lose focus.
 
Docked panels are aligned to one of the four sides of the frame and share the frame area with the editor area and other windows.  They are supposed to be used when you need the editors visible at the same time.  For example, having the structure view docked allows for browsing the file contents and viewing the text at the same time without switching between the windows. 
Undocked panels when visible overlap the frame area and are supposed to be used as temporary tools.  For example, the Structure View can be used while editing the code to quickly navigate to a method or a field inside the current class.  After you press F4 to open the corresponding text location, the editor receives the focus and the Structure View pane hides automatically.  Sliding undocked windows are always auto-hidden.
 

Best regards,

Eugene Belyaev,
IntelliJ Software, http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure"

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chad Stansbury
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 22:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Eap-list] Docked and Undocked...

Hello all -
 
This is just to satisfy my curiosity, but I've not been able to figure out the difference between undocked panels and docked, auto-hide enabled panels...  Could someone fill me in?
 
Thanks, Chad

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