Have you played Diablo II? There's an interesting interface for the "belt"
- Normally only the first line of tabs is shown and you see all the tabs
when you hover the mouse over them.
- This could be combined with smart (MRU) or manual reordering. 
- There should be a mark that there are hidden tabs.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Vollmer, Thomas - CannonSA
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:04 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Annoying editor tabs 'feature'
> 
> 
> I agree. The task bar is probably a better way of
> rendering this. And, if the two missing items you
> mention would be implemented along with it, I would
> be a very happy camper :-)
> 
> Best Regards.
> -Thomas
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Swinkels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:38 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Annoying editor tabs 'feature'
> > 
> > 
> > The windows task bar is actually a pretty good model for what 
> > Thomas is
> > describing. 
> > 1) There is one item on the task bar for every open 
> > application window.
> > 2) The items on the task bar don't jump around.
> > 3) If the task bar get too many items on it it goes to 
> > multiple lines with
> > up down scroll buttons
> > 4) You can resize the task bar to allow for multiple lines.
> > 5) You can hide the task bar so it only comes up when you want it
> > 
> > Missing are:
> > 1) being able to reorder the buttons
> > 2) the ability to have the task bar grow automatically to 
> accommodate
> > multiple lines.
> > 
> > Perhaps by changing the rendering of the tabs to look more 
> > like the task bar
> > people wouldn't find the current behaviour confusing.
> > 
> > -- Mark
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vollmer, Thomas - CannonSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 03:57p
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Annoying editor tabs 'feature'
> > 
> > 
> > I looked at the WinXP screenshot, and I'm not sure if I would
> > like it. The way it currently is in IDEA gives me almost
> > everything I want:
> > 
> > - an editor tab for each file I'm working on
> > - editor tabs don't change their spacial relationships just by
> >   activating a file, but only when opening or closing files
> > - take up as little screen real estate as possible while still
> >   showing all editor tabs at the same time
> > 
> > (I have the tab limit set to a very high number so editor tabs
> > don't disappear automatically when opening many files.)
> > 
> > All this gives me the ability to take advantage of the spacial
> > relationships between the editor tabs to be able to navigate to
> > them quickly.
> > 
> > Also, I tend to think about the editor tabs not so much as the
> > tabs of physical folders in a filing cabinet (which is probably
> > where this UI widget originally came from) but as tokens for the
> > files I am working with. As such, I like the token-"handling" to
> > exibit all the properties I mentioned above. For me, "handling"
> > the tokens aka editor tabs aka files is kind of like handling
> > index cards in Extreme Programming. For the full touchy-feely
> > experience though, IDEA lacks one thing: the ability to reorder
> > the editor tabs. Call me crazy but it also frequently drives me
> > nuts that I can't reorder the programs in the windows task bar.
> > 
> > To make a long story short. Please be careful when changing
> > this functionality in IDEA, and, if it were up to me, I wouldn't
> > change it at all (other than adding tab-reordering).
> > 
> > My 2 cents.
> > -Thomas
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eugene Belyaev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:35 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Annoying editor tabs 'feature'
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree.  We'll try to work out this issue for the next version,
> > > probably also adding the close buttons to every tab.  But 
> how about
> > > using Ctrl-E in Pandora to quickly jump to a recent file?
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > Eugene Belyaev
> > > IntelliJ Software, http://www.intellij.com
> > > "Develop with pleasure"
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ara Abrahamian
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:30 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Annoying editor tabs 'feature'
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The best things to do IMHO is the way WinXP handles it in 
> > > > task bar. An image showing it in action is attached. Up and 
> > > > down arrow buttons. When you click on down arrow you see the 
> > > > second row. TextPad offers a left/right arrow button but it's 
> > > > hard to use, you need to press right arrow button repeatedly 
> > > > to get to the document you want! Another good idea for the 
> > > > tabs is taken from Opera browser: you have several tabs open, 
> > > > tab1 has focus, you go to tab2, if you single-click on tab2, 
> > > > tab1 comes up, or in other words in recently used order, so 
> > > > you can very easily navigate in open tabs.
> > > > 
> > > > Ara. 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of Christian 
> > > > Sell
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:03 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [Eap-list] Annoying editor tabs 'feature'
> > > > > 
> > > > > >In Early Access version 521 - An annoying feature has 
> > > > appeared on the
> > > > > tabs
> > > > > >for open editors. If there is more than one row of tabs 
> > > > and a tab at
> > > > the
> > > > > >back is clicked, it isn't brought to the front. Also 
> > opening new
> > > > editors
> > > > > >places the new tab next to the tab currently in focus, 
> > > rather than
> > > > after
> > > > > the
> > > > > >last tab to the front-right.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Is this a 'Feature' or a bug?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > AFAIK its a feature. It was changed from the default swing tab
> > > > behavior
> > > > > because some users (and IDEA developers I assume) agreed 
> > > > that it was 
> > > > > irritating. I tended to agree at that time, but now that 
> > > I see the 
> > > > > results, I must say that I agree with you. The swing designers
> > > > probably
> > > > > went through the same thought/experience process before 
> > > deciding as
> > > > they
> > > > > did.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have seen apps that only allow one row of tabs, and 
> > provide some
> > > > sort of
> > > > > horizontal scroll function to allow for more tabs than 
> > fit on the
> > > > page.
> > > > > Maybe there is no ideal solution.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Christian
> > > > > 
> > > > > P.S.: what I do like is the new (?) CVS diff viewer. Nice.
> > > > > 
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