Hello Chantal,
I wanted to say, that I tried to run some Java programs (e.g. IDEA) under
SuSE Linux a half year ago - with a IBM Jdk 1.3 and a SUN Jdk 1.3.1, but
none worked sufficient: some dialogs had the size 10x10 pixels, I can't
enter any umlaut or a backslash ("normal" X11-applications worked fine),
the font in a default Swing application looked very ugly - not as smooth as
on Windows, ... and last but not least the speed was dog-slow compared to
the windows one. I'm definitely not a friend of Microsoft and it's policy,
but I needed a good Java environment for my PC and Linux wasn't an
alternative at this point (maybe the latter one can change with 1.4).
It could be true, that SUN make no difference between US-citizens, but if
everybody who has a non-US-keyboard could not enter his language specific
characters, I consider it as simply unusable.
I agree with you regarding the 1.4 issue at all. I would like to jump as
fast as possible to the 1.4-train for our applications. For larger
applications this is ok, because the JRE isn't that large compared to the
application, but if you have a smaller application, it counts for a user if
he needs to download a 9 MB bundle (application with JRE 1.3.1) or a 17 MB
(!) bundle (application with JRE 1.4) for a 2 MB application (without JRE).
Tom
At 20:28 28.02.2002 +0100, you wrote:
><...>
>Thomas-- (& MacOS users? / jdk1.4 interested)
>I am running a SuSE Linux with about 900Hz and half a gig RAM. java is fast
>enough for me. for all what I know the MacOS will be supported quite well by
>sun in the future. they (sun and apple) are working on more than one JVM
>cooperating together during runtime, but don't nail me down on this. that is
>pure rumor from my part.
>The point why I am encouraging the use of 1.4 is that swing has been enhanced
>and this should be a good reason for a gui to think about 1.4 compatibility
>(that this is possible but requires some work shows jEdit). moreover is 1.4
>the future so if you want to keep selling a java product you should support
>sun by supporting the new version.
>I for myself (and my work) make heavy use of the new java.util.regex package.
>I like it while I am getting more and more familiar with it but I cannot
>compare it to other frameworks as I have not used any others.
>By the way: I can't imagine a difference that sun would make between
>us-citizens using linux and non-us ones.
>
>And while I'm at it: ever thought of providing a JavaWebStart download for
>the EAP - wouldn't this make sense?
>
>Chantal
>
> >Try running IDEA under JDK 1.3.1 if available, it may work better (I use
> >1.3.1_02 under Windows),
> >Also, you can still have IDEA run your application under 1.4 even if
> >IDEA is running under 1.3.
> >You configure the JDK to use in the Project properties.
> >
> >I assume that is the answer you wanted at the beginning. Hope it helps.
>
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