How about some further discussion on RPATH/RUNPATH, what's involved in 
supporting it and whether or not it's a good idea (since RPATH is actually 
depreciated for about 15 years in favour of RUNPATH but still typically 
respected https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2012-05/msg00025.html). From what 
it I understand RUNPATH will ensure a binary always find it's libs but gives 
priority to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, how things really function is not that 
straightforward though (see "Why does this happen?" in 
http://blog.qt.io/blog/2011/10/28/rpath-and-runpath/).

Personally I think I might be favour of creating an abstraction layer between 
the module view (default, hierarchy,...) and the installations and combining 
this with RUNPATH. I don't see a good reason to change where things get 
installed based on the module naming scheme, all we really need is the ability 
to translate between the default naming scheme and other naming schemes (which 
is trivial since if we know the installation path for the default, we can grab 
all the installed eb files from within). If you couple this with RUNPATH, every 
executable/lib will just work even if you cherry pick the modules you want to 
expose to users. This would have huge advantages in the sense that we could use 
different naming schemes for different groups on the same system and the same 
installations. It would also remove the disadvantages currently imposed by 
hierarchical schemes (wxwidgets only builds with GCC and since I 
can't/shouldn't load GCC and intel at once in a proper hierarchical scheme, 
nothing that requires wxwidgets can be built for intel, this restriction 
doesn't exist for the default naming scheme and would be solved in the 
hierarchical scheme with RUNPATH).

Alan

Alan

On 5 January 2016 at 10:33, Kenneth Hoste 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear EasyBuilders,

The next EasyBuild conf call is planned for tomorrow, Wed Jan 6th 2016, at 5pm 
CET.
(Google+ event: https://plus.google.com/events/cv4pst7c0s9kbrgnofca4dkdgvs)

Topics I have in mind include:

* 2016a common toolchains
* support for eb --new-pr (WIP)
    * cfr. https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild-framework/pull/1528
* workaround for issues with Python packages being picked up from the OS (WIP)
    * cfr. https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild-easyblocks/pull/786
* open Q&A

Suggestions for other topics are welcome, as usual.

Please let me know in one way or another if you're planning to attend.

More details on the EasyBuild conf calls are available at 
https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild/wiki/Conference-calls .



regards,

Kenneth



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