BTW, CVS is no longer part of the platform runtime and is already an optional download. I learned that the hard way in 3.3 with Wascana ;) Doug.
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin McGuire Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:41 AM To: E4 developer list Subject: Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] What exactly will be part of e4? These are good questions Michael. Unfortunately we seem only capable of maintaining a few active discussions (and presentation happened to be first). In the EclipseCon presentation/BOF and in the wiki we talked about "The 20 Things", which are the base intrinsic services that the platform provides. Things like selection, commands, jobs, etc. We need to start talking about these, they're critical because they'll form the programming model. >>For example, why is CVS and Ant part of the (current) platform >>but not EMF? EMF seems more fundamental and general than say, CVS. Certainly in the case of CVS historical. Going forward, especially now that we have p2, I'd like to see a clearer split between base technologies vs. optional technologies (resources, JFace, Ant etc.), and vs. vertical domain components (CVS, JDT, etc). That's part architectural (ensuring the dependencies are right, as per your more recent note), and part packaging. Kevin Michael Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/20/2008 11:35 PM Please respond to E4 developer list <[email protected]> To E4 developer list <[email protected]> cc Subject [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] What exactly will be part of e4? I think what is considered part of current (eclipse 3) "platform" is partly determined by the history of eclipse. Will we just take the historic platform components and rework them as e4? The e4 discussion up to now has been very much focused on the presentation layer (SWT/JFace/Workbench). I'd like to see a clear picture of what is part of e4 and what the layers are. What about compare, text, jobs, update, resources, debug, team? Are those part of e4? What will be the impact of e4 on those components? For example, why is CVS and Ant part of the (current) platform but not EMF? EMF seems more fundamental and general than say, CVS. Michael _______________________________________________ eclipse-incubator-e4-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev
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