Absolutely ! The current model is 'top heavy' in that if places everything 
in one bucket and then rellies on constructing a 'valid' model (i.e. one 
that the renderer uinderstands). This means that people would have to read 
the documentation on what's 'valid' since there are no structural hints in 
the model (just use the XMI editor on the current model, you can add a 
view to a menu...;-). Given that this model is a significant component of 
our new 'API' we need something more intuitive...

It was put together ny a novice EMF user (me...;-) whose edutaction was 
limited to an EMF course titled "just enough to be dangerous". Aside from 
being too general it's likely missing a lot of the more subtle EMF 
patterns (computed properties...) that might be useful.

If anyone wants to give feedback or even take a crack at making this 
'type' safe(er) go to it (I'll be glad to update any necessary UI code to 
match the new model structure).

After talking it over with McQ and Kevin I've opened a bugzilla (248439) 
to track the feedback, patches...all comers welcome!!

Onwards,
Eric




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By the way we are open for feedback from everybody on what they think 
about
the current
workbench-emf-model. What did you like, where do you think we can improve 
(we need to find the balance between a DOMish- and a Typed-Model which is 
a
tightrope walk), ... .

Tom

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:09:07 +0200, Tom Schindl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Kai,
> 
> Great! We (in fact Eric) are currently working on allowing you to 
replace
> the widgets used to represent e.g. Stacks by custom
> widgets. I think this will be interesting to use to get a completely
> different L & F.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:01:50 +0200, "Toedter, Kai"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> based on Tom's EMF UI model and Boris' e4photo demo, I started a little
>> "more Enterprise like" E4 RCP demo, a contacts manager. I have the 
first
>> prototype running but want to polish it a bit before publishing. Some 
of
> my
>> goals for the demo are:
>> 
>> - Getting early "hands on" experience with E4
>> - Show the ease of creating E4 RCP applications
>> - Investigate the combination of modeled UI (application base) and
>> extensions provided by 3rd party
>> - Investigate Look & Feel styling
>>   - Corporate Look & Feel
>>   - Domain specific theming
>> - Investigate the modeling of branding information (splash screen,
> icons,
>> about dialog, etc.)
>> 
>> I would like to contribute this demo to the e4-incubator project. Can I
>> get write rights to the CVS?
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Kai
>> ---
>> 
>> 
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