Hello, Evrim Ulu writes:
> Count me in too, that's great :-) > > I've started fixing the autoconf script, i'll try to merge Sylvain's > patches into the repo. I tried to consult patch-queue, to check, if you refer some of patches there, but SourceForge seems down. What patches do you have in mind? > > Feel free to join at > > https://github.com/evrim/ecl-mobile/branches > > I'm working on mobile branch but its obvious that i need to fix > generic things first. > > > evrim. > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Hernan Ezequiel Di Giorgi > <hernan.digio...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I definitively want to help. I tried to port the ECL build system in the >> past to CMAKE, but i drop it. Also i create a nice repl with ECL for >> android, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ar.com.playnu.clrepl. >> I programmed all my life as programmer in C and C++. >> That's good news. Compilation guide for ECL against bionic would be nice thing. If it's free software, you could put clrepl it on FreeDroid repository as well. >> I studied the source the last month, so i could be ready to help. >> >> About the point 2. >> Why not github? Is seems more social and popular. I'm more into gitorious, since it more focuses on projects, not on people, but I have no problem with github as well. Github better exposes issues interface and fork/merge utilities, so after short reconsideration I think it's better idea. >> And no separate the libffi, gmp, and leave them to can get only one shared >> library when compiling, what is specially nice when working with android. >> I'm not sure, what do you mean? It would be no functionality split, but rather separation of different projects. >> (: >> >> 2015-02-15 18:13 GMT-03:00 ZhanLin Shang <shangzhan...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi Juanjo, >>> I think we would need a well-organized document (including examples) to >>> make others know ECL well. >>> I can help to translate the documents into Chinese :) >>> Best >>> Z.Shang >>> >>> On Sun Feb 15 2015 at 9:08:51 PM Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll >>> <juanjose.garciarip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> first of all thanks for taking me into consideration and for volunteering >>>> to continue the project. I was overoptimistic in assuming that I could even >>>> continue fixing bugs or reading the mailing list at all. I therefore >>>> welcome >>>> any initiative to have a stable team that works on bugs and keeps the >>>> project alive and useful. Just let me know what you need, such as adding >>>> you >>>> to the Admin list and perhaps updating or giving you access to other >>>> resources. >>>> >>>> Since I do not have much time to read these threads, I would appreciate a >>>> warning when the issue has been settled by the community, with a list of >>>> steps that I should take. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Juanjo Thank you, I'll drop you an e-mail in a few days with update. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:00 PM, ZhanLin Shang <shangzhan...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>> I agree with your opinion, I know some C (I've been playing around with >>>>> C for 5 years but not embedding) and some CL (which is the language I use >>>>> the most), I will try to help if I can. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Z.Shang Your help is appreciated and welcome. I think it is best to wait until Saturday to gather more opinions and discuss whole thing. Best regards, Daniel >>>>> >>>>> On Sun Feb 15 2015 at 8:56:01 PM Daniel Kochmański >>>>> <jackdan...@hellsgate.pl> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> most of you have probably noticed, that ECL is unmaintained for quite a >>>>>> while. Some spontaneous attempts are made, like submitting a patch, or >>>>>> answering question - what is great, but insufficient. Many important >>>>>> bug >>>>>> fixes last on git head, a few potential improvements wait in patch >>>>>> queue. The other words - ECL starts to smell funny, what's a shame, >>>>>> since it's a great project. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm writing to mailing list to volunteer myself as projects >>>>>> maintainer. I'm sure there are people better suited for such role, but >>>>>> since nobody asks for it, I do. Please reply to this message with >>>>>> protests or support, if any. I'm full time embedded engineer with >>>>>> strong >>>>>> C background, and solely speaking - CL new-be. Since I'm full time >>>>>> worker, I can spare only a few hours a week, but I'm sure it would be >>>>>> sufficient for start. >>>>>> >>>>>> Short plan of things, which have to be done (any help welcome) - in >>>>>> descendent order: >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Roll out a new release >>>>>> Many bug-fixes lie on git, and are absent on current release. It is >>>>>> really important to make a new release. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Introduce new branching model >>>>>> http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Move development to gitorious >>>>>> Split separate projects into separate repositories (libffi, gmp) >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Patch submissions >>>>>> I think it would be plausible to move patch submissions to >>>>>> mailing list, so they can be commented. >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Refresh >>>>>> 1. Website >>>>>> I find it counter-intuitive and hard to navigate. Sitemap should >>>>>> be rearranged, and maybe even moved from SF. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Materials >>>>>> Wiki's subscription is ended now. It should be brought back. >>>>>> Usage examples should be easier to find and study. >>>>>> It would be nice to have tutorials describing, how to install and >>>>>> embed ECL in project. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Patch/feature/bug queues (as started by Arto) >>>>>> Decide, which patches need to be merged into ECL, reject the >>>>>> rest. Same with feature requests - if something is beyond our >>>>>> reach for now, should be tagged as won't do. Bug reports should >>>>>> be >>>>>> checked for these already fixed, not-bugs and some which won't be >>>>>> fixed anytime soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Actualizing ECL support libraries - libffi breaks on build for >>>>>> armv5 (new version works like a charm). It is also at least worth >>>>>> considering switching to lgpl3 (for pragmatic reasons) - this one >>>>>> requires further discussion, but first things first. >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Evolve >>>>>> 1. Third party libraries >>>>>> - Use most recent libraries (asdf, quicklisp, swank, etc) >>>>>> - Treat libffi as separate project /move to more recent version/ >>>>>> - Treat libgc as separate project /consider lgplv3/ >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Make more ports >>>>>> - Android (merge patches, write nice tutorial) >>>>>> - NaCL >>>>>> - Minix >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Regression / testing / deployment >>>>>> - vagrant >>>>>> - automated reports >>>>>> - suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. ECL java application for android >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================ >>>>>> >>>>>> I already wrote similar mail to Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll (attached as >>>>>> reference), and he suggested to write to mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Daniel Kochmański >>>>>> >>>>>> > Hello, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > my name is Daniel Kochmański, and I want to say, that I am really >>>>>> > impressed by your work on Embeddable Common Lisp, and I want to thank >>>>>> > you for it. I find ecl nice piece of software and consider it a great >>>>>> > opportunity to learn. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I'm writing to you, because I want to be maintainer of it. I have >>>>>> > strong >>>>>> > C background, and I'm learning Common Lisp, so it wouldn't be very >>>>>> > good >>>>>> > pick if project is actively developed, but since it starts to smell >>>>>> > funny (pun intended), I think it won't be a bad idea. I'm full time >>>>>> > embedded systems engineer, so I can spare only few hours a week, but >>>>>> > I'm >>>>>> > convinced it would be sufficient for start. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > First thing I'd like to do is to roll out a new release, since git >>>>>> > head >>>>>> > has many improvements over current release (especially bugfix for >>>>>> > bordeaux-threads), and cleanup of feature-requests and bug-reports on >>>>>> > SourceForge. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Then I plan to move development to gitorious, and host third party >>>>>> > libraries as separate projects. Also, branching model would change - >>>>>> > current commits will land on "develop", and "master" will be kept for >>>>>> > releases only. I'm also considering reorganizing, or even moving ecl >>>>>> > site from SourceForge, because I find it really hard to navigate. >>>>>> > There >>>>>> > is also problem with wiki, where subscription has ended, and needs >>>>>> > reactivation by one of the wiki organizers (according to wikispaces). >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Next thing would be actualizing libffi (build breaks on armv5 on old >>>>>> > sources included with ECL), and merging patches for android and nacl >>>>>> > builds - I'm working on it on my local repository lately. After that >>>>>> > to >>>>>> > attract more people, I think that would be a nice idea to make >>>>>> > android >>>>>> > app, which will bring ECL to android devices. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > What do you think about this proposition? I was convincing myself to >>>>>> > write this mail for few weeks from now, but I'm still not sure if I >>>>>> > should write to mailing list first. Anyways, again, thank you for >>>>>> > keeping this project alive for so many years. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Best regards, >>>>>> > Daniel Kochmański >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Daniel Kochmański | Poznań, Poland >>>>>> > ;; aka jackdaniel >>>>>> > >>>>>> > "Be the change that you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Daniel Kochmański | Poznań, Poland >>>>>> ;; aka jackdaniel >>>>>> >>>>>> "Be the change that you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. 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