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Faith
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 21 21:37:51 MDT 1995
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 23:38:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jayne S Docherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mary C. Simmons, Hydrologic Assistant, Albuquerque, NM " 
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Subject: Re: woodley 
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On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Mary C. Simmons, Hydrologic Assistant, Albuquerque, NM  wrote:

> Now, whether or not my comments 'ala flambe' are effective, THAT'S another 
> story.  I really admire Jayne for her way of communicating WHY wood's comments 
> were so offensive, in a non-angry way--it was clear, logical, and unfettered.  
> MY comments on the other hand were full of anger, and even though I spoke the 
> truth as I see and feel it, I doubt I was as effective as Jayne.  I s'pose it 
> comes down to what we what to accomplish; do we want to get our work done 
> (convince white males that they really ought to pay attention and work for 
> social and environmental justice), or do we want them to be the receivers of 
> our anger (which they richly deserve), in my humble opinion.

I don't know if they were effective -- but I found them extremely 
funny... and quite clear!

Don't give me too much credit.  I can tell you about any number of 
incidents where I did NOT accomplish that and where I was not at all 
calm... After all I am the one who called the Ollie North campaign 
headquarters to complain about the "Law Enforcement for North" campaign 
signs and concluded the conversation by yelling into the phone at a 
retired FBI agent "You are a fucking fascist pig!"  Probably not 
very effective, but it felt great!  Of course, I after I hung up the 
phone, my 10 year old son said in a very dry tone, "Well, Mom, that was 
very conflict resolutionary of you..."  

Besides, maybe a little well-directed rage from a few of us 40-something 
women who are pissed off might wake some of these guys up!

Jayne

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