This is the second day I've been on this list serve, happy that I've made a
decision to participate in this forum. I am sure to gain a better understanding
of all the various thinkers among us.

I appreciate the opportunity to take myself to task here (what I need best to
function best as as the ecofem I've morphed into).

> In a message dated 98-11-29 02:00:59 EST, you write:
>
> Hi!  right Jane - one with the universe - however,

It's difficult to understand that there can be any 'however' to being one with
the universe. It's my understanding that we are either working together as one or
consider our needs to be above our collective, thwarting the collective for our
personal need.

> Ecofeminism - when someone who hasn't read any of the books, or taken any
> courses, or participated in any listservs about it would read to mean:

Can it make sense that people are ecofem who may have never done these things?
>From Chris King's web pages it's evident that women and men from all over the
planet recognize grave and very serious wrongs committed to every aspect of life
by our species. I don't have the understanding that ecofem thoughts and
philosophy require books, or courses, or listserves to recognize serious and
critical need for change.

> Ecology - feminism - Simply people who defend women's rights and environmental
> integrity -
>
> Now which is more important defending environmental integrity or defending
> women's rights?
>
> We know that sometimes we can't do both -

If we cannot do both, nothing will change. Life as we know it will come to an
end. This by our own action, not by any other means. It will be us who ends life
on this planet if we continue to think this way.

> How can we be true to our convictions if we sway back and forth almost
> convenient to make ourselves comfortable _ as if our comfort is more important
> to universal harmony?

We can't.

love and hope,
donna anderson
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