Hello again to all, especially Tj, anne dashiell, Paige B., Doug 
Henwood, and H. Ellis, who have all contributed to the spirituality 
debate running around this network over the last 48hours. Rather than 
responding to each of your comments (that would take pages and pages 
and none of us has the time for that), I think I'll just begin a 
stream of consciousness exercise based on my reflections on what many 
of you have said. 
    Actually, I'll begin with Doug's 64 million dollar question, What 
is spirituality? Assuming that it wasn't rhetorical, Doug, I'd really 
be interested in hearing your comments on what _you_ think 
spirituality is. This is really the challenge in discussions of this 
type, isn't it. For those of us who have what we believe is a 
spiritual orientation toward life, there is no question of what we 
"believe" spirituality is. But is it in fact THE spirituality that 
everyone else talks about? Or is it an entirely subjectively inspired 
concept that has arisen in our consciousness based on our personal 
experiences? Or is it something transcendent in human consciousness 
that anyone and everyone could tap into if they were so inclined. I 
tend to favour the latter perspective. Especially in terms of the 
environment and the human relationship with the rest of nature. I 
know or at least feel in my heart that the often overwhelming 
emotions that I experience when I view a magnificent landscape or a 
beautiful painting, or hear an exquisite piece of music are a result 
of something that I can't explain using "normal" science. I have 
talked to people who see the world from within the positivistic 
paradigm who would say that what I'm experiencing is completely 
explainable in terms of chemical and hormonal changes, but as far as I 
know neuropsychology or physiology or whoever else explores this kind 
of stuff hasn't yet explained the exact point of transference from 
the sensory input and the emotional/spiritual reaction.  
    So where does that leave us? In my mind, we are left with 
something unexplainable by human knowledge at this stage of our 
evolution or on this plane of existence. Representatives of various 
religious institutions have tried to convince the rest of us that 
their way of explaining these unexplainables is THE truth and, to a 
very limited extent, they may have had a few insights, but the 
message gets a little weakened by the trappings of power and the 
greed as they vie to "save souls." There have also been contributions 
from philosophers and theologians over the years that have also been 
enlightening. But, I think humanity has a great lesson to learn here. 
Despite being the so-called pinnacle of evolution as far as we know, 
there is a vast universe of stuff that we don't have even the 
remotest clue about. That calls for a little bit of humility on 
the part of everyone and especially those who feel they have a 
monopoly on truth.
    To try to bring this back to more central themes driving this 
network, I offer the following:
    We need everybody, regardless of your concept of spirituality or 
politics or whatever drives you. But the most important thing is that 
we need everyone to be UNITED. Isn't that the challenge though? We 
all have so many different ideas about how we think the world should 
be run and we have so many bad experiments going on that are promoted 
as THE best way to run this or that society and none of them are 
working. Spirituality might not be THE EXCLUSIVE way toward finding 
solutions to global problems but we certainly have a massive wealth 
of evidence that the secular approach ain't working. So maybe we have 
to look really deeply into the systems that currently run human 
society and examine the fundamental ethical and spiritual principles 
that are guiding them. Do they have the best interests of all of 
humanity at heart? Do they ensure that Earth will not be damaged as 
civilization progresses? Are scientists keeping a firm vision of (what 
I call) "the big picture" in their minds even when they are off in 
some remote area of North America or the Himalayas examining the 
geomorphological transformations of the landscape or are sequestered 
in some lab looking at microscopic organisms? How much does the 
"average" person question the images that bombard us everyday? Are we 
allowing ourselves to be Hollywoodized just because someone has told 
us that life should be like that?
    As usual I pose more questions than provide answers. But I've 
learned as I have progressed in academia that I know a lot less than 
I used to think I did when I knew a lot less. So, maybe when we think 
we have a pretty good idea that solutions to contemporary 
environmental problems can only be found in social transformation or 
political upheaval or economic reform or whatever the latest and 
greatest solution is, we need to look deeper into the sources of the 
problems. Much of what we see is merely a symptom of a very widespread 
disease. Perhaps we could practice a little more preventative 
medicine instead of the pill pushing we've become used to.
    Well, I've droned on long enough. I am delighted to find a forum 
for interacting with others who are interested in these ideas. Of 
course, I haven't gotten any of my "assigned" work done since I 
arrived on campus this morning. You guys are much too distracting!
    A la prochaine,
    Roxanne

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