I, too, very much appreciated the chance to see the interview with
Rosi Braidotti -- a thousand thank-yous for including it as part of
the Eco-fem dialog.
Reading it reminded me that I need to ask a question to the list,
and I pologize in advance if this is inappropriate.
Do we have members in the Netherlands? -- a colleague of mine is
leaving this summer to study Film at the University of Amsterdam, and
eager to make contact -- she and her partner have a zillion questions
about securing a flat or apartment, finding employment, etc.
Please respond privately.
Thank you.
Jill
University of Nebraska
Lincoln, Nebraska
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Jill Morstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 18 12:10:48 1996
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kimberly A. Mongoven)
Subject: Re: Thanks Stefanie.....
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:08:52 -0500 (CDT)
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from "Richard Twine" at Jun 18, 96 10:50:47
am
I think that sharing our feelings of hopelessness about what we are
doing to the environment should serve some purpose...instead of just
dwelling on things we should be talking about what we can do to change
these things....
instead of dewlling we should be sharing ideas on how to educate
society andthe people who make the laws I don't know I just think that
it would be more helpful to turn feelings of helplessness into actions
to save our earth from society and society from itself (damn that
sounds pretentious) I mean this just as a suggestion...and not a
complaint...
for instance if you want your grass long then grow it long...when your
neighbors complain explain to them what they are doing to the land that
we live off of and that their great grandchildren won't even know what
real grass is...hold a town meeting...call your local government
officials and protest...people follow leaders and learn by
example...maybe it will do something....even if it doesn't work at
least it will make you feel better knowing you did try something
not to lecture or anything...just trying
to be helpful...
I just find it ironic that the lawns with those (in my opinion) tacky
fake deer frollicing on the freshly cut toxic lawn usually have
hunters who hunt for fun not food.
just my two cents.
peace
kim
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 18 12:28:01 1996
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: woman out of time etc.
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:38:43 -0300."
<v01540b0dadec60ae3aed@[205.163.143.9]>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:27:53 -0700
From: "Stephen R. Figgins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> i believe the most that any person can do on this earth to contribute to
> her healing is to give up all but plant based foods.
[...]
> any thoughts on this ???
hmmm... Well, considering that I have given up eating meat for mostly
the same reasons you have done so, I am a bit biased in your
direction.
Well, I did eat some meat for a while. I called myself a
Consciencious Omnivore. But over the last 12 years of giving up meat
I have slowly become less and less capable of taking animal life to
feed myself. So it isn't all political for me anymore. I can't seem
to justify to myself the NEED to take an animals life.
There have been times and places where eating animals did/does make
sense. Animals can sometimes take otherwise unusable land and turn it
into food. A good example might be the flint hills in Kansas. The
land can not be tilled and used to grow food, but animals can graze
its high mineral content grasses, and we in turn can eat those
animals. Also, in places with a very short growing season, meat can
be a very important dietary supplement.
So it isn't so much that eating meat is an environmental problem, but
rather there is a problem with how many animals we must raise to meet
current demand, and how those animals are raised and fed.
I choose not to support that industry, by decreasing the demand for
meat by one person. Not a big dent, but I just can't in good
conscience give money to people who will destroy our environment,
cruelly abuse animals, then slaughter them to please my palate. I
considered eating organic meat as a compromise, but that still
increases the need for meat in general, and I do not wish to do that.
I also minimize other products from animals.
I think it would be possible to live in harmony with nature, and
occaisionally take the life of an animal, using it for food, clothing,
etc. But the way our food, leather and other items comes to us today,
is a good example of how our culture has cut its self off from nature,
from the earth. That makes the decisions we make in how to feed
ourselves an eco-feminist issue.
BTW I went to a lecture given by James Lovelock. I was hoping he
would condemn eating meat as detrimental to the environment. I asked
him something to that affect, giving him an opportunity to say
something, but he neatly dodged the issue. He did say he believed the
best possible thing that you could do for the environment is to plant
a tree.
Stephen R. Figgins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://tech.ora.com/fig/
"Well, once again my friend, we find that science is a two-headed
beast. One head is nice, it gives us aspirin and other modern
conveniences,...but the other head of science is bad! Oh beware the
other head of science, Arthur, it bites!"
--The Tick
