No, Andy - you notice I said "most."  After all, what we were talking
about were "generalities."  Exceptions to this "status quo" were not
even mentioned.                                                     
 Of course, "WE'RE" DIFFERENT!

"Viva la......!"

Jackie
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep  9 19:02:58 1996
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 21:04:52 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Liam Campion)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gender and friendship. Was Re: kylie and jason (fwd)

I enjoyed Helen's reply.  Personally, I am not sure that the 
developmental process of caring moves toward codependence.  (any more 
than a developed stage of liberation requires oppressing another.)  I 
treasure the friends I have, who have developed capacities to listen and 
care.  For whatever reason women develop this  it may not always 
contribute to advancement on a career track,  in an environment of 
downsizing it may contribute value.  I am certain it increases the 
quality of life, (to create a caring context.)  Because of the other 
agendas of the workplace, intricate affiliation might take attention and 
perseverance.  No less reason to begin. 

                                          marybeth
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep  9 19:55:51 1996
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 19:54:47 -0600
    9 Sep 96 19:53:17 GMT-7
    9 Sep 96 19:52:12 GMT-7
To: "Jackie Van Brocklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Andrew Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gender and friendship. Was Re: kylie and jason (fwd)

At 04:33 PM 9/9/96 CST, you wrote:
>No, Andy - you notice I said "most."  After all, what we were talking
>about were "generalities."  Exceptions to this "status quo" were not

I'm sorry, i noticed this after i had already sent my message.  Let me
rephrase that...

"_Most_ feminists are lesbians that are too ugly to get a man."
"_Most_ women only care about gossiping and shopping."

To quote Nietszche; "When fighting monsters, be careful lest you become a
monster."

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