Spiritual commonality? You make so little room for how others believe
that I shudder at your notion of commonality.
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 98-11-29 10:09:27 EST, Donna writes:
>
> << It's difficult to understand that there can be any 'however' to being one
> with
> the universe. It's my understanding that we are either working together as
> one or
> consider our needs to be above our collective, thwarting the collective for
> our
> personal need.
>
> >>
>
> Hi!
>
> The problem is we are not working together - if I am working for my God and
> you are working for your Goddess - how are we working together? We are not
> using our God/Goddess to put forth our needs we are setting them up against
> each other. In other words that is what I read when someone says "you keep
> your God and we'll keep our Goddess!" Can't we agree that we need to find
> some spiritual commonality if we are to work together? Or, does the
> commonality remain - we all want to fight for women's rights and environmental
> integrity - let's keep spirituality out it? Will there every be a universal
> spiritual understanding? If not how can there be global unity? What will be
> the uniting factor?
>
> I wrote:
>
> Sometimes we can not defend women's rights and uphold environmental integrity
>
> In reply you wrote:
> If we cannot do both, nothing will change. Life as we know it will come to an
> end. This by our own action, not by any other means. It will be us who ends
> life
> on this planet if we continue to think this way.
>
> I agree - We should do both - but how to do that at the same time - all the
> time! That would require strong convictions. as Jane noted sometimes we can
> not do both because we have to raise families- It's like some people who
> defend sin - because it makes life liveable - How can we be strong to our
> convictions to really stop the Eco-crisis - would be to completely dismantle
> the Capitalistic Structures - Period - no participation from anyone who wants
> to uphold environmental integrity - my opinion. It (Capitalism) is at the
> root of Greed/love of money and Division/competitiveness. So Let me rephrase
> this question:
>
> Shouldn't environmental integrity - and the rights of the entire planet come
> before the rights of an individual - whether that individual is male or female
> should be irrelevant - When should a women dismiss the eco to accomodate a
> women's right to participate in a patriarchial system that she claims causes
> the Eco-crisis? Again - Aren't they conflicting interests?
>
> It's not easy - but if you are spending your time working at change - lasting
> change will only come when we realize that we need strong convictions and we
> have to remain true to them. As hard as that is that is how hard a Garden of
> Eden would be on Earth. There will be no universal garden of love and beauty
> without individual love and beauty through and through! Because we are all
> part of the whole! Each individual is a universe within the universe - Now
> let's make our worlds pure in spirit and that spirit will unit us to create
> the world you dream of! Not pecking away at a man's vision of Greed and Power
> - that would take ions! But creating spiritual unity that will help us shed
> some light on the subject of male dominion and how it is hierarchy and how
> females are truly the guardians of wisdom/angels/messengers - so let's get the
> message out "Stop trampling on the Earth to further yourself, treat all women
> as your complementaries in grace and no more greed!"
>
> Remember religious men will only listen to religious reasoning. You can't
> make them change by insulting their beliefs - you can only help shed some
> light on the subject from their own belief structure.
>
> Peace!
> Angela
>
>
>
