Hello all. I'm quite new to this list but have been rather interested (as 
well as somewhat amused) by the recent discussion of conflict and 
conflict avoidance. I have a few comments I would like to add.

First of all, in my experiance, those in academia do not in any way try 
to avoid conflict. People here have big egos and reputations to defend. 
They just have a tendancy to dress up all of there harsh comments in a 
nice dinner suit. In my experiance, those involved in spiritual 
exploration are less prone to high strung conflicts. I am, in fact, right 
now trying to learn how aproach my academic environment with a tone 
similar to what I have in my spiritual stdies for just this reason.

Second, I think that the reason anne's language may be viewed as a 
problem by some is not because of the message it contains (many academics 
do most certainly have their head up their butt and know it) but because 
the tone is overtly aggressive (which causes people to react before they 
hear what you have t say) and somewhat insulting (which makes people not 
like you even if you meant no offense). In short, I think your message 
will get across better if you use a conversational tone and language 
which does not turn people off to you. After all the goal is to share an 
idea, not tick people off (I hope  :)

Toodles,
Jon Poppele.
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HELLO Folks:

I am asking for comments from academics and non-academics alike, and in
particularly from those who work (as a job) in environmental situations
(whether as policy makers, advocates or just as a ranger).

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THE FILM "MINDWALK" BASED ON THE BOOK "THE TURNING
POINT" BY FRITJOF CAPRA?

I have used the film to present a new paradigm or to develop a different
approach for students in gender communication, management of human services,
culture and science, and in language and culture.  In particular, I want to
use this film as a basis for discussion on developing a different paradigm
using ecological thinking as a feminist idea.

I would welcome comments, advice, and suggestions DIRECTLY to me at:

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Thanks,
B Frederique S
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Kate-
Thanks for your comments. You are certainly less aggressive, though no 
less passionate in your approach than I am, and I think you've summarized 
a lot of the arguments I was trying to make very well.
I have a thought- how about the lesbians and other interested people on 
this list take a look at "Uses of the Erotic" by Audre Lorde and see how 
it can be applied to eco-lesbian/feminist concerns on these issues. It's 
short, and so powerful, that I think it may be a good starting point for 
dialogue.
In sisterhood,
Elizabeth Ribet

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