Alright lets stop picking on the theists on the list! It is only fair that we question her belief but that is because Angela insists on spewing forth her dogma. There is no need for name calling though. I dont go around trying to spread my atheism as an alternative--but since I mentioned it...*evil grin* Bertina [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, bunny wrote: > Marguerite wrote: << Don't expect others to disprove YOUR *belief* of the > existence of a God and YOUR *belief* of the existence of a divine plan. > > Marguerite > > Angela replied: > >>No, I will do no such thing! There is no proof - just faith! If you want > to believe - try this: > > >>I can tell you that answered prayers are a constant part of my life because I > believe! It is not just coincidence! I want to share that with you and this: > > >>"Believing is seeing!" Why don't you lose the doubt, stop asking for proof and > let God enter your heart and your life! What do you have to lose? You may > have everthing to gain! Peace, joy, contentment, love, happiness . . . - it's > a virtual banquet and everyone was invited to the feast - some people just > RSVP'd sorry can't attend - then don't blame God! > > ++Angela, I have nothing against your belief in blind faith (in God), but I > believe that many people use this type of "borne again" Christianity as a crutch > or opiate to sustain them through life. The problem with Christianity is the > dogmas involved (including that of opposing contraception and then strangely > enough opposing abortion - so young girls and women are supposed to suffer > constant pregnancies and then suffer the shame and expense of an unwanted > pregnancy and/or then slip into poverty as sole parents (if very young) or > be forced to give their babies up for adoption.) > Show me the peace, love joy and happiness in all this Angela...explain to me why > desperate women have died horrible deaths from septacemia through trying to > self-abort an unwanted pregnancy when abortions were illegal. Show me the > peace love and joy in the poor children of Asia abandoned by their mothers > who can't afford to keep them and have sold their children into > prostitution. One country (religious?)in Asia won't allow contraception or > contraceptive advice to be advertised in the media. > > >>The questions was posed: How do we know there is a plan that we are not aware > of - beyond our human understanding? I believe that we could never prove that > there was or that there wasn't. But if we were in total control -, we would > know what the plan was- Wouldn't we? Doesn't that show that something or > someone else is in control here? I think it does! > > ++You may very well be wrong about a plan Angela. I believe that humans have > the power to determine their own destiny. We are making such a collective > mess of the world however that some people are finding it easier to explain > away all that happens as "the will of God" instead of pro-actively trying to > make things better. This is a cop-out. > > Marguerite > > peace! > Angela > > Read this great quote today: "Compassion is love in action!" > =========================================================================== > /`\ /`\ RABBIT INFORMATION SERVICE: _ _ > (/\ \-/ /\) P.O.Box 30, Riverton, Western Australia 6148 (.\_/.) > )6 6( http://www.wantree.com.au/~rabbit/rabbit.htm \6 6/ > >{= Y =}< VEGETARIAN PAGE =\ /= > /'-^-'\ http://www.geocities/RainForest/4620 /O\ / > (_) (_) / \ ( > | . | U U ) > | |} Pity the human race its illusion of permanence (| |)/ > \_/^\_/ w'-'w > =========================================================================== > > >
