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> In a message dated 98-11-09 03:15:31 EST, you write:
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> << The
> simple fact in my mind is that the current society who largely worships that
> god oppresses the overwhelming majority of it's populace on the excuse of
> divine orders that these opressed are somehow less equal than the rest & not
> deserving of equal treatment. Until that changes your god won't even
> deserve
> my recognition ever!
>
> Hi!
> I'm sorry if you feel that God is the oppressor - I do not blame God for
> anything bad and I make it a rule to never do it - God is only responsible for
> Good - the bad is the the people who misuse the power. They are the
> oppressors. The oppressors are the people who misuse the power - We are
> powerful in that we have choices - we are free to destroy each other and this
> Earth - but we have to choose not to and we have to convince the others who
> are doing it that they are wrong - but we need to know WHY - so that we can
> convince them. Telling people that they can not harm the animals, each other
> and the planet - just tell them and they will say WHY? and you say for
> example - because the Goddess will get pissed - and they will say WHO? Who
> the $%^& is she?
> You know what I mean?
>
> If they ask me I say because God gave us the gift of life - ALL of nature is
> LIFE - humans, other animals, plants, trees, flowers, water, air . . . If we
> love life - life will love us
> and same applies with God! If we love God - God will love us! It just works
> that way! How loving is it to say to God - I now believe in Earth as the
> God/Goddess? You are saying to God, I have not noticed the sun, the moon and
> stars - how they bring such light and warmth - I have been blinded to your
> creation God - in my efforts to understand life - I did not seek truth!
>
> Peace!
> Angela
>
What if they ask you, "Who the #*@%! is He?" You'd have no
better answer than the goddess worshippers. In fact, you'd have the
same answer, with just a gender change. As to your "get real"
statement, that is exactly my answer when someone insists that for
my post-death salvation (!?), I must believe in and love a discarnate,
yet somehow male entity who befleshed his progeny by committing
astral adultery with the wife of a middle eastern peasant! Joe
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Subject: Re: Two Alternatives
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> In a message dated 98-11-09 03:15:31 EST, you write:
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> << Divinity by it's very nature in relationship to humanity has to be just as
> diverse as humanity itself. This is not the many faces of the one true god,
> it is many different gods to fufill many different purposes & needs. Your
> God
> will never ever be my God ever & believe me I know I'm not missing out on
> making that choice.
>
> Hi!
>
> Divinity has to be diverse? Why?
>
> It is many different gods? How many?
>
> Gods have to fulfill purpose and needs - why? and what purpose and needs?
>
> My God is Love - fulfilling all purpose and need - for Love is afterall all
> you need -
>
> Please understand that the Goddess was created to explain fertility - as if
> fertility were life - fertility is the process by which life is created - not
> a deity - by a life process - then what is life? Is the Goddess life itself?
> Why hasn't she told us about herself? What's her real name? Saying you
> believe in the Goddess is saying to me you are mad at God (whom you call my
> God) and wanting an alternative source to worship - what does the Goddess give
> you in terms of life and love?
>
> peace!
> Angela
There are no better reasons for deity to be one than there are for
deity to be many, or even not to be at all. To turn your question
around, why were all the different gods and goddesses created? To
provide simplistic mantras we may mindlessly repeat rather than
admit that some questions are unanswerable (what is this place I
find myself? why is there something rather than nothing, and why
THIS particular something?), some answers are individual (what is
the purpose of life?), and some answers are unpleasant (what
happens to me when I die?). The Goddess gives Her followers
exactly what God gives his, minus the overweening urge to convert
and dominate, and plus the acceptance of diversity and cooperation
between different people with compatible goals. Joe
