I didnt say that Christians are the ONLY ones that use animal
research--but since they are the MAJORITY in this country and in
Marguerites country--YES they do ultimately claim the responsibility for
the funding and use of animal research. They also are the ones that
usually are hypocritical by claiming to be caring of people and other
creatures while not stopping or actually performing the tests on animals.
Muslims and others dont go around talking about Christian charity and
other fallacies.

Bertina
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 98-11-10 05:37:48 EST, you write:
> 
> << Good going Marguerite! Action against this desire on behalf of so-called
>  Christians to elevate mankind through animal research is OK in my book!
>  What makes these people feel they have a right to do that--is it EVIL?!?
>  Does anyone see the irony in it all?
>  
>  Bertina
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >>
> Hi!
> 
> Bertina - are you saying that all animal testing research is done by ONLY
> Christians?  And that ONLY Christians benefit (using the word loosely, because
> we really would benefit more by just leaving the poor animals alone) however,
> that is how science is looking at it - animal testing as a benefit (big lie!)
> - anyway, do only Christians benefit from these tests? Only Christians eat
> animals?  
> 
> I think you should Stop the generalizations! Some religions still kill animals
> to use in their rituals - endangered animals like turtles, etc.  Other
> religions kill animals for food/medicine - shark fins, tiger parts, etc.  Why
> are they excluded from this? Everyone is involved in this mess - everyone has
> to play a part in cleaning it up.  What I said was how do you present the
> "testing on animals and using their parts for jewelry and medicine as evil
> (your word) I would use the word cruel to Christians and other religions."
> When we tell them it is cruel (obvious to some) and they say "no it benefits
> humans - that's God's will" What would you say to them in this regard?  Why
> does it not benefit humans to test on animals, kill animals for medicine and
> why is it not in accordance with our stewardship to the animals?"  How is it
> more greed and not God?  I have the answer - do you?  Are you just poised to
> generalize against Christians or do you understand that ALL people Christians
> and every religions want/need to know WHY before they will consider stopping? 
> Bertina - Why shouldn't we test on animals? Why shouldn't we kill animals for
> jewelry? What's morally wrong with it?  
> 
> My answer:  God did not create the animals for greed and avarice.  We should
> be treating the animals as co-creations as part of the balance with nature -
> not as objects of our desire to make ourselves prettier, wealthier, healthier
> . . .undue cruelty is obvious to me also unGodlike
> My two cents - I'm sure you agree - but now let's get them (the people who
> still argue that animal testing benefits anyone or anything, etc.) let's get
> them to agree it doesn't! and
> I truly believe that all the medicine we humans need is in the Rainforests of
> the world - Hopefully, we can stop them from destroying it all before we
> discover it!
> 
> Give them reasons and give them alternatives - it's our only hope!
> 
> You can't defend the animals rights if you can't justify they have rights!  
> \
> Peace!
> Angela
> 

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