At Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:26:47 EST, you wrote:
>
>Hate to say it, guys,
>
>but this debate has taken on all the characteristics of an undergraduate
>philosophy course, in which "scoring a point" and "proving" that others are
>being illogical is the boring game at hand.
>
>I personally agree with Unleesh that factory farming is an absolute
>abomination. I agree with Joe's statements that using "Hitler" in any
>discussion is a straw-man technique that is designed to de-center the
>argument.
>
>HOWEVER, this immature male posturing about philosophy is downright deplorable
>to me (and to many here, I suspect). Joe, you are paranoid. You also accused
>Angela of being an "agent provacateur," and, because you were a more
>sophisticated raconteur than her, led her into making all kinds of defensive
>statements. Now, you are using the same technique on Unleesh. I don't know
>why, but it seems obvious to everyone except perhaps you that your rhetoric
>can be very counter-communicative and, when it is so, doesn't achieve
>anything.
>
>We can't work together as ecofeminists if we don't have compassion for each of
>our paths; for the way we each work. I'm speaking of some respect for
>consciousness biodiversity. Joe, you have a wonderful brain, and we all
>appreciate your intelligence. I wish I could free you from the need to prove
>it constantly, but I can't. That is you.
>
>I'm sorry, but I've just about had enough of this. Logic helped get us into
>this mess. We are all smart, well-educated people, and all our opinions
>should be acknowledged as contributing to a part of the whole. We are aiming
>for a process that can help, in an ecofeminist way, heal some of the results
>of dualistic thinking. Joe, you "dualize" with everyone. I am here to say
>more openness, more abundance, more respect, more affirmation, more
>enlightenment, to the extent we all can process it. I don't want to be in
>Philosophy 101 anymore; been there, done that, bought the t-shirt!
>
>Love, Jane
>
>
I agree that this is unproductive. I also wish to say that it gets my goat any time
someone maintains that I must be "bad" or "evil" simply because I do not share their
point of view, or follow it. I refuse to bow to such moral McCarthyism, whether
practiced by Angela or (un)leesh.
>
Joe E. Dees
Poet, Pagan, Philosopher
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