Bertina, I clearly stated that feeling safe in that type of hall was my opinion. I said *I* felt safer in an all female hall. I didn't say that women in general were safer in an all female hall than in a co-ed environment. Unfortunately college women will and do get raped on campus no matter which living arrangement they choose. It was only my personal opinon of my experience, I was not speaking of women in general. kimberly ---------- > From: Bertina Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Men? > Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 7:18 PM > > When I went to a college in Wisconsin I lived in a womens residents hall. > There were 2 other halls that were coed and one that was all male. There > was a rape that occurred on the first floor of the womens residence dorm > by a male student who was the rape victim's roommate's boyfriend. A woman > isnt safer just because she was in an all female dorm. Just because women > feel safer that doesnt mean they are. > > Bertina > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Kimberly & Brett wrote: > > > I went to a large university in MI and lived in a woman's resident hall aka > > "dorm" as a Resident Assistant for the last two years of my stay. I found > > it to be an environment that was more predictable, safe, relaxing and just > > more beneficial for me. Compared to the women who lived in the co-ed halls, > > the women in the all female hall seemed more confident, focused, and > > involved in college activities and their studies. I am not saying that the > > women in the co-ed halls were poorer students or unhappy, it was just from > > experience and observation that these comparisons can be made. I also think > > men and women of college age learned to respect each other a little more > > during their college years when they do not live in close proximity to each > > other. > > > > kimberly > > > > ---------- > > > From: Hayley Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: Men? > > > Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 6:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I go to a women's college for these exact reasons. And yes, it does > > > prepare women to live with and interact better with men in the "real > > > world". It's a common misconception that women's colleges and > > > single-sex learning don't prepare women for the "real world"--actually, > > > the opposite is true. Consider this: Only 1.5% of college women attend > > > women's colleges, yet 25% of women members of Congress are women's > > > college graduates, women's college graduates make up 1/3 of women board > > > members of Fortune 1000 companies, women's college graduates are twice > > > as likely to earn PhDs, of BusinessWeek's 50 highest ranking women in > > > corporate America, 30% were women's college graduates, etc, etc, etc. > > > Clearly, single-sex education makes women "better able to deal with men > > > later in their lives". > > > > > > Hayley > > > > > > > I find this to be an interesting debate- a lot of people have made > > > >good arguments that women can become more assertive and comfortable by > > > >having intelligent discussions without men around- men often do make a > > > >mess of things. However, would it help make these women better able to > > > >deal with men later in their lives? One thing I find interesting is > > > that > > > >if you are in a setting where men and women are giving equal attention > > > by > > > >a teacher, the men think that they are being snubbed and that the women > > > >are being favored. Maybe a solution would be to have the women get > > > >together for awhile, and the men get together separately, and then put > > > >them all together later, and see what happens. I really don't know- I > > > >just find that this topic is pretty intriguing. It is hard for me to > > > be > > > >in favor of something that excludes based on gender or ethnicity, but I > > > >can see good reasons for doing so when the excluded group tends to be > > > >beliggerent and domineering. > > > > -Miguel > > > > > > > >______________________ > > > >Miguel Ordorica > > > >Washington State Univ. > > > >Dept. of Sociology > > > >Wilson 206 > > > >(509) 335-4595 (msg.) > > > >(509) 332-4442 (hme) > > > >______________________ > > > > > > > >On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Bertina Miller wrote: > > > > > > > >> The real world includes men, until there are no men in existence, > > > then you > > > >> can say its ok not to include them in something. As for challenging > > > the > > > >> status quo I am all for that. Doesnt mean that a person should be > > > >> exclusionary. Everyone learns from diversity not from exclusion. > > > >> > > > >> Bertina > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >
