Here I go again-I do not believe that a professor who has control of
his/her classroom and who truly wishes to express to their students the
wrongfulness of sexual deference, WILL NOT allow any type of deference to
occur. That simple. I do not defer to anyone when I train people at my
job, I only defer to my BOSS. That's it! If no one can show in the
classroom that there are ways in which to conduct oneself and ways in
which NOT to conduct oneself-someone aint doin' the job correctly!!

Bertina
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On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, ginger spice wrote:

> Hayley wrote:
> 
> >OK Chris-- Time for me to apologize.  I would like to apologize for 
> >Ginger and her blatant male-bashing.  I see nothing patriarchal >about 
> >what you did/said as far as the journaling goes.  And Ginger-if you 
> >are 
> >uncomfortable with people seeing your words, get off the internet. 
> 
> Hayley,
> 
> You obviously did not read Mr King's post. WHY DON'T YOU READ IT.
> He apologised and then went on to give an explanation of why he chose to 
> assume a patriarchal position and gag the opinions of two feminists on 
> this list because IN HIS OPINION another feminist (whom they were 
> criticising) had opinions more in line with HIS beliefs.
> This is an ECOFEM list, not a list where we all aquiesce to males who 
> choose to try to influence or dominate the list. If you can't accept 
> that, then it is YOU who should *get off the list*. Perhaps Mary Daly is 
> right, if you have a male in the class (or on an email list it seems), 
> women tend to be *protective* of that male even if he is being 
> patriarchal to their peers .(isn't that *sweet*)
> GS
> 
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