I see this statement of Joe's as sexual harassment, at the very least,
if not a threat.  As a woman who has experienced sexual abuse first
hand, I find his presence here disruptive and very upsetting. 
Although I value the right of all people to speak their minds, I
cannot tolerate this kind of assault.  

I have already started deleting Joe's posts from my inbox to protect
myself from his words, but I would like to formally ask for his
removal from the list.  His words are unacceptable, whether sent to
the list or privately to a subscriber.  

Heather




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 3/14/1999 6:12:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << (An homage to Nicole, who pulled the same trick to counter a "hot
lead"
> remark)
>  I feel strangely nervous, tense, on edge.  What is the source of my
> discomfort?  There seems to be a tightness in my XY Jeans..it's
getting hard
> to breathe without panting...gotta unsnap the fastener, relieve the
building
> pressure...then IT emerges, lengthensthickensdistends its hideous,
bloated,
> throbbing, pulsating selfOMIGAWD!  Quick, the BobbitKnife! 
Patriarchy has
> Reared its Ugly Head! >>
> 
> That sounds like a sexual threat, very much in the manner of white
slave
> masters who raped the enslaved women and girls they owned.
> 
> It also is akin to the sexual threats issued - and too often carried
out by -
> by men against women who disobeyed the patriarchal structure -
feminists,
> afghanistani women, catholic nuns in Latin America,reflecting fannie
lou
> hamers jail experience, the fate of escaped slaves all over the
americas, the
> threat to women working in offices, walking home at night alone, and
the ever
> presented use of rape and sexual threat against women in wars all
over this
> world.
> 
> Klu Klux Klan members often sexually threatened the black women they
> harrassed.
> 
> Included in this threats given to lesbian women to "fix them". 
> 
> Is this the mentality you protect women at abortion clinics  - the
mentality
> you showed toward your black girlfriend. Is this an example of the
your
> character that you say that I attacked unfairly?
> 
> That you pose this an "homage" to me reveals your intent clearly,
but you must
> understand that on an email list you are no threat me me, sexually or
> otherwise. I won't trivialize what you have sexual threat you have
written by
> going for the obvious comment that I may well comment on lack of
size you may
> not want to reveal or the often manifestation of such blatantly
sexually
> abusive attitudes by men who are impotent. You are least impotent in
your
> ability to terrify or even passify me via email.
> 
> In reality, if you present yourself to me in such a way, what would
you have
> me do with your penis? Will you attempt to force me to do this? You
will
> require a weapon, such as a knife or a gun to force me to do this -
and you
> must wait until I am alone - perhaps breaking in on me in my home,
jumping out
> of the bushes, or forcing me off the a deserted road at night and
drag me into
> the dark, perhaps a wooded area, to achieve your intent.
> 
> Do you really think I would see any other choice than to cut it off?
Defend
> myself to the point of your death, even if it results in my death? I
would act
> upon the concern that you would later inflict such attitudes on
younger black
> girls, or elderly black women - and women of color really, actually
women of
> any race/ethnicity - who were unable to defend themselves. 
> 
> Even without my death, I could fairly well make an argument for
self-defense
> in your murder by simply presenting what you wrote above as proof of
your
> intent. So if you ever came near me, I would have reason to be
sufficiently
> threatened as to stop you by any means necessary.
> 
> If I cut it off, I assure you that there would be nothing left to
reattach
> because I would either shove it down your throat or torch it in your
presence.
> You underestimate my capacity if you think otherwise.
> 
> I know masses of black men (arabs, latinos, africans, americans),
who are very
> repulsed by such sexually threatening abusive behavior in men (the
masses of
> men including my father, grandfathers, uncles, cousins) who would
make sure
> that would the dying swan song of your behavior towards me.
> 
> So you have gone from attempting to squash my expression of my own
perspective
> on my experience as a black woman, to making comments on savage
somalis and
> other such texts to  "correct" me, refute the idea that I can know
or think
> anything other than what you deem acceptable and fact, and not being
> successful at any of that, you resort to the sexual threat above.
> 
> You have shown what your philosophy is in full.
> 
> Nicole
> 

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