At Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:20:56 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>
>I see this statement of Joe's as sexual harassment, at the very least,
>if not a threat. As a woman who has experienced sexual abuse first
>hand, I find his presence here disruptive and very upsetting.
>Although I value the right of all people to speak their minds, I
>cannot tolerate this kind of assault.
>
>I have already started deleting Joe's posts from my inbox to protect
>myself from his words, but I would like to formally ask for his
>removal from the list. His words are unacceptable, whether sent to
>the list or privately to a subscriber.
>
>Heather
>
What is unacceptable is the continuous attack and assault upon me by both nicole and
those whom she holds in thrall. If words not even directed your way (and which BTW,
other women on this list found funny) colstitute a threat from which you feel the need
to protect yourself, by all means use your delete button, but if so, the internet in
general is likely to be quite unacceptable to you, therefore why don't you delete it
all? I will not respond to your verbal assault except to say that the attached attack
on my person reflects my idea of who inspired it. What is unacceptable is personal
insult, and you will not needle me into responding to yours, no matter how diligently
you try.
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 3/14/1999 6:12:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> << (An homage to Nicole, who pulled the same trick to counter a "hot
>lead"
>> remark)
>> I feel strangely nervous, tense, on edge. What is the source of my
>> discomfort? There seems to be a tightness in my XY Jeans.it's
>getting hard
>> to breathe without panting..gotta unsnap the fastener, relieve the
>building
>> pressure..then IT emerges, lengthensthickensdistends its hideous,
>bloated,
>> throbbing, pulsating selfOMIGAWD! Quick, the BobbitKnife!
>Patriarchy has
>> Reared its Ugly Head! >>
>>
>> That sounds like a sexual threat, very much in the manner of white
>slave
>> masters who raped the enslaved women and girls they owned.
>>
>> It also is akin to the sexual threats issued - and too often carried
>out by -
>> by men against women who disobeyed the patriarchal structure -
>feminists,
>> afghanistani women, catholic nuns in Latin America,reflecting fannie
>lou
>> hamers jail experience, the fate of escaped slaves all over the
>americas, the
>> threat to women working in offices, walking home at night alone, and
>the ever
>> presented use of rape and sexual threat against women in wars all
>over this
>> world.
>>
>> Klu Klux Klan members often sexually threatened the black women they
>> harrassed.
>>
>> Included in this threats given to lesbian women to "fix them".
>>
>> Is this the mentality you protect women at abortion clinics - the
>mentality
>> you showed toward your black girlfriend. Is this an example of the
>your
>> character that you say that I attacked unfairly?
>>
>> That you pose this an "homage" to me reveals your intent clearly,
>but you must
>> understand that on an email list you are no threat me me, sexually or
>> otherwise. I won't trivialize what you have sexual threat you have
>written by
>> going for the obvious comment that I may well comment on lack of
>size you may
>> not want to reveal or the often manifestation of such blatantly
>sexually
>> abusive attitudes by men who are impotent. You are least impotent in
>your
>> ability to terrify or even passify me via email.
>>
>> In reality, if you present yourself to me in such a way, what would
>you have
>> me do with your penis? Will you attempt to force me to do this? You
>will
>> require a weapon, such as a knife or a gun to force me to do this -
>and you
>> must wait until I am alone - perhaps breaking in on me in my home,
>jumping out
>> of the bushes, or forcing me off the a deserted road at night and
>drag me into
>> the dark, perhaps a wooded area, to achieve your intent.
>>
>> Do you really think I would see any other choice than to cut it off?
>Defend
>> myself to the point of your death, even if it results in my death? I
>would act
>> upon the concern that you would later inflict such attitudes on
>younger black
>> girls, or elderly black women - and women of color really, actually
>women of
>> any race/ethnicity - who were unable to defend themselves.
>>
>> Even without my death, I could fairly well make an argument for
>self-defense
>> in your murder by simply presenting what you wrote above as proof of
>your
>> intent. So if you ever came near me, I would have reason to be
>sufficiently
>> threatened as to stop you by any means necessary.
>>
>> If I cut it off, I assure you that there would be nothing left to
>reattach
>> because I would either shove it down your throat or torch it in your
>presence.
>> You underestimate my capacity if you think otherwise.
>>
>> I know masses of black men (arabs, latinos, africans, americans),
>who are very
>> repulsed by such sexually threatening abusive behavior in men (the
>masses of
>> men including my father, grandfathers, uncles, cousins) who would
>make sure
>> that would the dying swan song of your behavior towards me.
>>
>> So you have gone from attempting to squash my expression of my own
>perspective
>> on my experience as a black woman, to making comments on savage
>somalis and
>> other such texts to "correct" me, refute the idea that I can know
>or think
>> anything other than what you deem acceptable and fact, and not being
>> successful at any of that, you resort to the sexual threat above.
>>
>> You have shown what your philosophy is in full.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
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