This was amazing to read Bob, thanks so much for sharing it. It has
definitely given me much to think about. 

Kimberly 

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> From: Bob Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Back to meat
> Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 2:07 PM
> 
>      While at university I became mostly vegetarian and explored a
> vegan diet also; due to the economic, ecological, and social justice
> issues mentioned in previous posts on this issue.  
>      Then I spent three years in Bangladesh, where I was exposed to
> the common Third World attitude toward meat- a rare, special treat; to
> be shared and feasted on when oppoertunity provides.  I recall
> distinctly being served the head of a chicken once in India with my
> rice!
>       Then I moved on to, in two different places now, explore
> creating a sustainable life on the land- mostly through organic
> gardening and fruit.  In this situation the value of domestic and wild
> animals quickly became apparent.  If one seeks a system not dependent
> on mechanized tillage and powered food processing- the common ways in
> this country of growing and processing grains and grain legumes; small
> numbers of animals and poultry in the system are so very beneficial. 
> They can eat wastes and produce manure which is equivalent to the
> highest quality compost, otherwise taking weeks or months and much
> work to produce without the help of animals.  As a food source, on
> sparsely populated/managed lands, they find a niche too.  It is
> difficult for me to imagine the hand labor involved in growing and
> processing by hand any significant amount of a grain legume, such as
> soybeans; whereas keeping a few free-range goats and poultry is a
> matter of a few chores twice daily.  And here's another fact; animals
> can turn stuff we can't eat into something we can.  I found it little
> short of a miracle how my goats could browse all day on poison ivy,
> pine needles, cactus, privet, heoneysuckle, chinaberry; and many other
> things actively poisonous or useless to me, if I were to attempt to
> eat them directly; and convert them into milk, meat, useful manure,
> weed control, hides, etc. etc.  
>     In other words I think vegetarianism makes a whole lot of sense IF
> one must access most of one's food from the mainstream economy.  But
> for those in a position to design their own food system from the
> ground up, on the land, livestock again find their place.
>     Another aside: Tons and tons of meat and other animal foods(in
> addition to many other things edible and not)are thrown out in this
> country every day.  Just take a peek into any grocery store dumpster. 
> If you like what you see, check it out.  Dumpster diving is an
> underground art of subsistence which supports a significant portion of
> the American, and world, underclass.  Combined with some basic food
> preservation skills; I would never need to grow or raise a thing; if I
> did not have concerns about the toxics and nutrition, and if I did not
> believe that one day the dumpsters won't be full, because the grocery
> stores won't be full, because the planet's resources are being so
> swiftly depleted as one very thorough list of statistics published on
> here makes clear.  So, we call the dumpster our 'transitional subsidy'
> till we get infrastructure up (including livestock fencing and
> housing!), and some garden soil decently improved (mostly through
> quantities of that wonderful animal by-product!).
>      I think anyone who has lived on the land respectfully and has
> taken the life of an animal for food can relate to the
> sacred/spiritual aspect alluded to in several posts.  I certainly do. 
> Usually I say a short prayer- something like-"You had a good life, now
> you will have a quick and useful end- may my life and my death be as
> good."  I read that in Tibet, the people call their yaks their
> parents; because the animals provide them with so many of their needs.
>        From the Georgia wilderness-
>                     respectfully,
>                          Bob the treeplanter-
> > 
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