It occurred to me that this proposal is similar to what is commonly done in 
physics laboratories. Many experiments have built-in biases and if the 
student reports correct results (i.e., the values in the reference books) 
then it can be assumed that they have fudged the data. I recall experiments 
on gravitational acceleration, the charge to mass ratio of the electron, and 
the Hall effect, as well as a virtually impossible experiment, measuring the 
resistance of a light bulb. Verifying some of Galileo's results is another 
good example (heavier objects really do fall faster than light ones, the 
period of a pendulum depends on the weight as well as the length). I cannot 
immediately think of a good parallel in ecology, but certainly it is a good 
concept worth thinking about.

Bill Silvert


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> But I have wondered if there would be value  in the following scenario:
>
> 1.  Professor teaches a 'bogus' concept to the students, perhaps in a  way
> that they assume it is a lecture as usual.
>
> 2.  Professor then has the students perform an experiment to 
> "demonstrate"
> the phenomenon.    Prefessor expects a full report  write up on intro, 
> methods,
> data results, discussion (of what went right or  wrong, comments, etc).
>
> 3.  Professor evaluates how many students:
>        A.  Report that the  data does not support the phenomenon and that
> the phenomenon might be  questionable.
>        B.  Rationalize what  went wrong with their experimenting such that
> their particular experiment  'failed'.
>        C.  Fudge the  data.
>
> 4.  Ask  the class to do a peer review of each others reported  research
> findings.
>
> Debbie Antlitz 

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