Copyright does not mean you can't discuss something it just means you can't 
reproduce it in its entirety on your own. In fact FAIR USE law says you can 
quote statements even a couple sentences or a paragraph for purpose of 
commentary. Also if the purpose is general discussion and education there 
are exceptions. You can not make several copies, sell it, or reproduce on 
your own website.

You can discuss any of the statements on the list! I'll cc Robert to get his 
feedback on what can be put on the list for discussion- not sure if he's on 
Ecolog or not but he corresponded with me a bit and said he got a great 
response to his survey since I posted the link! The power of the internet!

Anything you say or write is automatically copyright by you even if you 
don't write that its copyrighted on the document or don't register it unless 
(1) you are an employee (2) you entered into a Work Made for Hire agreement.

Wendee

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Silvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: scientific misconduct survey


>I finally got around to reading the guide and looking at the questionnaire,
> and while I think that Montgomerie raises some interesting issues which it
> would be worthwhile to discuss on this list (but we can't because the
> questionnaire is copyrighted!), I think that these are issues to discuss 
> and
> not simply rank without considering different situations. I found it
> impossible to fill out the questionnaire because for many of the questions 
> I
> could easily envision situations where they action described would be
> serious misconduct and others in which it would be OK, or even 
> praiseworthy.
>
> Perhaps Dr. Montgomerie could be persuaded to modify his copyright so that
> we can discuss these issues on the list. Even though most of the material 
> in
> his list is stuff we talk about all the time, given that the colour BROWN
> has been patented (by UPS) and there is a current lawsuit over whether the
> word VIRGIN is in the public domain (wow, think of the implications for
> ecological research!), I m reluctant to comment on the specifics of his
> questionnaire.
>
> Bill Silvert
>>
>> For those who didn't read the May 2005 essay posted by Morty, "A =
>> beginners guide to scientific misconduct"=20
>> (http://web.unbc.ca/isbe/newsletter/commentaries&editorials/Montgomerie&Birkhead_vol17(1).pdf)
>>
>> I thought I'd post the URL to a survey mentioned within and currently =
>> being conducted by is author Dr Robert Montgomerie:=20
>>
>> http://biology.queensu.ca/~montgome/sm
>>
>> Take the survey because I'm interested in his results! :o)
>>
>> Wendee
>
> 

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