Dekker, Jasja wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> So why do we keep submitting papers to this group of journals? Are page
> charges so far spread that fitting, but free-of-charge journals are so
> rare? I think the scientific community, being both primary producer and
> consumer of the journals, has more power than it thinks!
> 
I don't think the ESA is going to like you writing _that_ on one of its 
newsgroups!

Seriously, the problem is that journals have to be paid for somehow.  I 
did see a quote that a paper in an online journal costs $100 to publish. 
  That can only be reduced by people working for free: I'm part of the 
editorial board of an online journal (Journal of Negative Results - 
Ecology and Evolutionary Biology: www.jnr-eeb.org) and we don't charge 
for submissions or downloading.  But we can only do that because of 
goodwill from several sides (in particular the managing editor).

> I hope you all will forgive me for starting again on copyright law, BUT:
> does transfering copyright to the journal mean we can not offer our own
> papers on personal websites?
> 
Alas, in some cases yes.  We should give the ESA its due here for 
allowing authors to put their papers on the web.

Bob

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