I sure don't know, but it is encouraging that some landscrape 
architecture curricula are now offering at least one quick-and-dirty 
course on ecology.  I talked to a recent graduate of a major eastern 
(US) university recently who said that landscape architecture did not 
require even basic botany.

A more-or-less "major" state university in the west (US) recently 
turned down the clearly best-qualified candidate (Harvard PhD, great 
teacher, big grant-raiser, well-deserved reputation in her field) for 
an assistant professorship because the STUDENTS didn't like her quite 
as well as one of the lesser qualified candidates (a graduate 
student).  The Dean and most of the professors liked her best, but 
that, apparently, didn't count.  Do students decide the curriculum at 
all universities these days?  Could that be why few recent graduates 
have synthesized brain cells?  Does virtual reality RULE?

WT

I don't think this issue is "covered" yet, least of all, perhaps, by 
my own too-quickly-done and incomplete "response."  I think the 
question deserves better, and I hope Teresa is the one to do it.

At 07:32 AM 4/8/2006, Malcolm McCallum wrote:
>I think the main reason that so many questions have come up and this 
>discussion has flourished for so long is because most people no 
>longer take biogeography in their graduate studies.  All of this was 
>covered in my zoogeography course taught by Ed Moll.  Why have we 
>chosen to not teach this at so many universities?????
>
>Malcolm L. McCallum
>Assistant Professor
>Department of Biological Sciences
>Texas A&M University Texarkana
>2600 Robison Rd.
>Texarkana, TX 75501
>O: 1-903-233-3134
>H: 1-903-791-3843
>Homepage: https://www.eagle.tamut.edu/faculty/mmccallum/index.html
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of 
>Wayne Tyson
>Sent: Sat 4/8/2006 1:17 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Biology of Invasion
>
>
>
>Teresa, I remember hearing, many years ago, of a teacher who offered
>to give any student a "A" in the course who could ask one intelligent
>question.  She didn't say how she defined "intelligent question," and
>I've always wondered if that wasn't the question.
>
>I look forward to, not merely your compilation, but to your making
>sense of all the responses.  I hope you will discuss the various
>definitions, areas of broad agreement, and identify areas still in
>dispute.  And, I hope you will reach a reasoned conclusion about the
>degree of urgency and the nature of the problem.
>
>I suppose I'd may as well throw in my sense of the matter, however
>simple-minded.  I'm not sure I have any "answer."  But I plan to stay
>on the quest as long as I can keep whole armies of organisms from
>making a meal out of me.
>
>1. "Colonizing" is what organisms do.  That is, they do what they can
>to survive and reproduce.
>
>2. Populations of organisms go up and down in response to changes,
>genetic and environmental, according to their requirements for life
>and reproduction.
>
>3. Organisms that are broadly adapted, survive broadly.
>
>4. The history of the earth as best we can understand it through the
>paleontological record, consists of many species that evolved,
>adapted, and survived to the present day--or could not or did not
>adapt sufficiently to changes, some catastrophic, some gradual.
>
>5. Interactions between and among species are part of a Great
>Jiggling and Juggling, from microbes to, uh, humankind and
>beyond.  Those interactions interact with other interactions, ad
>infinitum (I hope).
>
>6. When a more or less dynamically stable (nothing is static) habitat
>is "disturbed" or "perturbed," the "system" reacts.  (Of course,
>"perturbation" is change, eh?)  Adapted organisms rush in to the site
>of perturbation--they are "opportunistic."
>
>7. "Weeds" (colonizing species) that appear to rush in to the
>perturbation site can be "native" or "alien" to the immediate region,
>but they must be adapted to the conditions consequent to the
>disturbance.  The scale can be small or large.  As conditions change
>(as a result of the weeds' action or other changes), other
>"colonists," native or alien, sooner or later (sometimes much, much
>later, perhaps beyond the human time-scale--or certainly one summer)
>also come to occupy the site, first with the weeds, then perhaps
>effecting such change on the site that conditions are no longer
>suited to the weeds and it comes to resemble, to US at least, the way
>it was before the disturbance, and what we see as "dynamic
>equilibrium" "returns."  If "we" help in this process, or accelerate
>it, we call it "restoration."
>
>8. Some organisms that are transported from "outside" the local
>"system" don't require what we recognize as a disturbance to survive
>and reproduce, apparently being adapted to the "undisturbed"
>conditions of the dynamically stable, "local" ecosystem, and colonize
>without significant change in the recognized habitat.  Such organisms
>are clearly (or are they?) "invaders."  For our purposes, in our
>opinion, for whatever reasons, they are.  Certainly when "we" are the
>initial vectors.
>
>9. Humans and elephants and mice and weeds can be notable change
>agents, but it's an observation based on the human time-scale and
>value system.  Does Nature "care?"
>
>10. Never mind.  Just go out there and get those grants and have some fun!
>
>WT
>
>"It's turtles all the way down." --Anonymous
>
>At 07:37 PM 4/6/2006, Teresa Woods wrote:
> >Just wanted to touch in and express appreciation for a rewarding thread
> >on a difficult and important -- urgent -- problem.  I've been reading
> >with rapt attention and am waiting a few more days until contributions
> >seem to have petered out, and I'll compile the citations and post them.
> >  It will take some time to plow through and read all the articles, but
> >I'm really looking forward to it.
> >
> >Thanks again!
> >Teresa
> >
> >Teresa Woods
> >Graduate Assistant
> >Division of Biology
> >232 Ackert Hall
> >Kansas State University
> >Manhattan, KS  66506
> >785-532-9834
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>

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