The weltschmerz I feel for (the study of, to be=20
regrettably but of necessity, redundant) ecology=20
and science or any sort of intellectual integrity=20
in general is debilitating.  I yearn for growing=20
evidence that teachers need not be diverted from=20
the essential task of awakening and inspiring and=20
encouraging and nurturing the intellect (both=20
that of their students and their own), and that=20
substance/ability/performance is seen as more=20
important labels and other elements of IMAGE.  I=20
yearn also for evidence that authoritarianism,=20
the apparent root of the phenomenon, is likewise on the decline.

Please reassure me.  Or, if necessary, confirm my=20
worst fears.  I promise not to blow my brains out.

WT

At 05:54 AM 5/12/2006, J. Michael Nolan wrote:
>Lauch and anyone else interested....
>
>I don't have much to say about what you call your program. You are no doubt
>correct, people will certainly make some important initial judgements based
>on what this course is called.
>
>Brings up another issue that has bothered me for many years. The main
>problem here starts long before your potential students will decide to sign
>up or not sign up for this course, which by the way sounds excellent in=
 your
>approach.
>
>The irony is that from whatever source, probably all, society, teachers,
>parents, etc., etc. people are taught that ecology/environment are NOT
>IMPORTANT issues. The focus is more on "how is my child going to get into
>med school, law school, dental school, etc., etc., etc." at the lower=
 levels
>in education. In many high schools physics, chemistry are seen as "hard"
>courses for the better students.
>
>I did not say all high schools.
>
>In many/most biology books, you find ecology as the last few chapters and
>difficult to even get to in a typical school year.
>
>Years ago I was teaching an advanced biology course at the high school=
 level
>and was chastised by many parents for making Ecology the main focus.
>
>Kids are just not shown enough the overlap of other disciplines when it
>comes to environmental, ecological issues that we hear about everyday in=
 the
>news.....math, physics, etc. etc.
>
>I guess my main point is that there are more reasons that
>
>"Some of us think that a 'Masters of Environmental Studies' has the
> > perception of lacking rigour and that it will automatically be thought
> > of by others as a degree without a thesis."
>
>Best of luck on your new course.
>
>Mike Nolan
>
>Call weekdays, evenings and weekends.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>J. Michael Nolan, Director
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lauchlan Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:59 PM
>Subject: what is in a name?
>
>
> > We are developing a thesis-based masters program in environmental
> > studies.  Ecology, social sciences and economics are equally important
> > in the development of our program.  We are considering two names:
> >
> > 1. Masters of Environmental Studies
> > 2. MSc in Environmental Studies
> >
> > Some of us think that a 'Masters of Environmental Studies' has the
> > perception of lacking rigour and that it will automatically be thought
> > of by others as a degree without a thesis.  Some of us think that an
> > 'MSc in Environmental Studies' is biased towards science and therefore
> > lacks the true spirit of the multidisciplinary nature of environmental
> > issues.  I am very interested to hear the lists thoughts on this issue.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Lauch Fraser
> > Thompson Rivers University
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >

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