While I understand Claras reservation, I think we should think that there should be a larger role for quotes.
Finding the right words is difficult and if somebody has found a genial way of expressing himself, why not use his words as a quote. It is, however, true that if quotes make up more than a few % of a paper it is an indication that something is wrong. Frank Cara Lin Bridgman wrote: > My students are bright enough to produce whole papers from carefully > selected quotations. If they included citations and quotation marks, > they are not plagiarizing, but neither are they writing. > > In science, we are biased against quotes. This is because we > paraphrase. This isn't just to provide smooth transitions between cited > ideas. Paraphrasing is evidence we understand what we read. > > In the Orient, so much of education emphasizes memorizing. Their test > questions tend more towards 'Quote ABC on XXX.' I don't think this > proves we understand ABC's ideas on XXX. So many of my own high school > and college test questions were 'Explain XXX using your own words." > > CL > > Amartya Saha wrote: > >> Hello all, >> for quite some time i have had some confusion over quoting literature, and >> perhaps this plagiarism thread could offer some ideas.. >> >> If one were to quote a paper, i have heard that one is NOT supposed to >> directly >> lift a sentence or para or any parts thereof, even though the paper would be >> quoted as a reference. Instead, one has to paraphrase the same in one's own >> words. >> Is this true ? If so, the logic fails me. How does it matter if one rephrases >> the sentence, when the idea or result has been copied ( and referenced of >> course ). >> >> Thanks for any views >> amartya >> >> >> >> Quoting Abraham de Alba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >>> Dear Ecologgers: >>> >>> It might seem odd to say this, but the problem is >>> that in our education (as in yours) knowledge has been >>> at the top, NOT values (or ethics for that matter). >>> >>> But then again, japanese (that supposebly do stress >>> values before knowledge) also have been known to trip >>> on plagiarism. >>> >>> So I guess a simple problem has complex social >>> solutions (nothing new there). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <P>Abraham de Alba Avila</P> >>> <P>Terrestrial Plant Ecology</P> >>> <P>INIFAP-Ags</P> >>> <P> Ap. postal 20,</P> >>> <P> Pabellón Arteaga, 20660</P> >>> <P> Aguascalientes, MEXICO</P> >>> <P> Tel: (465) 95-801-67, & 801-86 ext. 118, FAX ext 102 >>> alternate: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> cel: 449-157-7070</P> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> > > -- Frank Berninger Professeur / Chaire du Canada en productivité foréstière Département des sciences biologiques CP 8888 Succ Centre Ville Université du Québec à Montréal Montréal QC H3P 3P8 Canada tel 1 514 987 3000 ext 1644 fax 1 514 987 4647
