To clarify the "poor planning" part, first of all, it doesn't matter how 
long in advance the department knows, if they do not have enough resources 
to cover the position of someone on maternity leave they simply cannot do 
it. Planning is no substitute for a decent budget. My point was that for an 
institute to tell its department to provide maternity leave (or any other 
benefit) without providing financial support for it puts a lot of pressure 
on the departments involved to try to get around the issue, and this can 
lead to sex descrimination. If we want to get rid of discriminatory 
practices, we have to get rid of the incentive to discriminate.

As for having "4-6 months to plan ahead", that is not always available. 
While I think that any responsible employee would provide the information as 
soon as pregnancy has been determined, this does not always happen. Even 
after a woman begins to show, it is pretty delicate to have to ask whether 
she is pregnant or just putting on weight. In any case, if the pregnancy is 
likely to create hardship for the department, the pressure to conceal a 
pregnancy exists. That is another reason why the institute, not the 
individual department, should shoulder the financial (and personnel) burden 
of maternity leave.

Bill Silvert


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bilodeau, Rebecca -- MFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: gender issues in ecology


> The issue of someone "suddenly leaving on maternity leave" is a
> non-issue in most cases.  Generally the University/company has at least
> 4-6 months to plan ahead.  What about staff who suddenly leave on any
> medical leave due to stroke, heart attack, family medical emergencies?
> Everyone has seen examples of that in both men and women. That can
> happen to any person, regardless of gender or age, and is a more
> expensive issue because it is unplanned.  In the examples Bill provided,
> it sounded like very poor planning on the department/lab's behalf. 

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