I am surprised at this interpretation of the postings. As I recall, no male poster stated "that gender bias does not exist" although some, such as Gary Grossman, felt that the degree of discrimination had been exaggerated. As for the men who said that "maternity/paternity leave should not pose a problem", the key word here is "should" -- I certainly argued that it should not pose a problem, but that is different from stating that it is a problem.
I think that most of the male posters admitted that there are serious problems, and some of us tried to point to solutions It appears that at least in some quarters though we are bound to be condemned. This is not a good way to make progress. Bill Silvert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Lahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: gender bias: a summary of ecolog-L responses > Similarly, on this listserve, 8 out of 9 (89%) women said there is gender > bias in ecology/biology, while 3 out of 5 (60%) men said that gender bias > does not exist. 3 out of 3 women were not concerned with age bias, while 2 > out of 3 men expressed concern about age bias. 4 out of 6 (67%) of women > believed that maternity/paternity leave or raising children poses an > additional challenge/problem, while 7 out 9 (78%) men said that > maternity/paternity leave should not pose a problem.
