Annemarie, 

Sorry I didn't catch your post sooner, but this course should be in your
summary.  You might want to look at the course offered thru The
Olentangy River Wetland Research Park at Ohio State University: 

http://swamp.osu.edu/ShortCourse.html#course2

This is the research center of (none other than) William Mitsch, who
takes part in the course.  The chief instructor is Ralph Tiner, who was
the principal author on the 1989 wetlands delineation manual.  You can
read more about him and the other instructors at that link, or search
for his books on the subject at Amazon.com.  

I took the WTI course, and it was a fine introduction to the topic.  I
would have liked to take the OSU course, but I couldn't impress upon the
folks here the importance of who is teaching.  Anyways, some information
and a few links for you: 

Here is the 1987 manual that is currently used:
http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/permit/documents/87manual.pdf

I am sorry to say that I can no longer find a download link for the 1989
manual: "Federal Manual for Delineating Jurisdictional Wetlands. An
Interagency Cooperative Publication" - I have an electronic copy if
anyone is interested.  

And here is a summary of why the 1989 manual is not in use: 
http://www.water.ncsu.edu/watershedss/info/wetlands/contro3.html

Here was a new one for me: a draft of the Arid West's Delineation
Manual: 
http://www.usace.army.mil/cw/cecwo/reg/Arid%20West%20draft.pdf

Plenty more relevant documents available on the web... you should read
as much as possible.  Wetlands regulation is a complex subject, and
there are many folks out there (on both sides of the fence) who would
like to "interpret" the fray for you.  One of the best resources on some
current issues is a special issue of the journal Wetlands on SWANCC
issues: 

http://www.sws.org/wetlands/toc/TOCV23n3.html

But now there are new issues from the recent Rapanos/Carabell Supreme
Court Case (delineation verifications are currently on hold if they
involve vegetated wetlands - as opposed to Section 10 or Other Waters
only).  A friend's response was "One step forward, and two steps back."


I should also point out that MOU between USACE and NRCS (USDA) was
rescinded.  I do not know the details of the split, but if you are
interested in performing delineations with or for them (i.e. Farm Bill
issues) you may need training on their methods.  

Best of luck, 
David

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Annemarie Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:07 PM
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Subject: Wetland Delineation Training

More than a few people emailed me to ask if I would share the responses
to
my inquiry on Wetland Delineation training.  Here are all the responses
I
received.  Thanks to everyone who contributed.  Annemarie Smith

I and several of my staff have gone through the Wetland Training
Institute
Course. The course gives you an adequate start and the instructors are
knowledgeable and entertaining. The course is only a start though and
the
rest requires experience with wetland conditions in you area and in
working
with ACE employees to know what they expect you to do in the field
(number
of pits, etc) and the documentation they require in your reports. If you
have taken college courses in wetlands and soils and have an ability to
identify plant species the course will seem a little symplistic. In
reality,
all you need to learn is to apply basic science to regulations.
Hydrology,
GIS and GPS experience will greatly help when you start doing
delineations
and good project mangement skills are needed to budget projects.
John [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have taken a series of courses through the continuing education
program at Rutgers.  I have also attended a course at Ohio State taught
by Bill Mitsch and some of his colleagues. I highly recommend either or
both of these. It seems to me that courses offered by commercial
organizations are considerably more expensive than those at academic
institutions. I wonder if the commercial programs are worth the expense.

Ken Kerrick<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 As a newly full-time wetland ecologist in the natural resources
consulting
arena, I participated in the "Wetland Delineation (Emphasis on Soils and
Hydrology)" course by Wetland Training Institute
(http://www.wetlandtraining.com) in 1995. My instructors (Bob Pierce,
Charlie Newling, and Blake Parker; see "Bios" on WTI's webpage) were
very
professional, have been in the business of wetland ecology and
regulation a
long time, and were very good instructors.  I see that all three remain
on
staff, and I would again take a wetland regulatory course with these
instructors.

Good luck,
Jason S. Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I've used Wetland Training Institute, PO Box 31, Glenwood, NM 88039
1-877-792-6482, www.wetlandtraining.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's a little expensive, but the instructors have a wealth of
knowledge.

Good luck!
Caroline C. Hinkelman


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Caroline C. Hinkelman
Wildlife Biologist/Environmental Specialist
Advanced Project Development Office
Lubbock District
135 Slaton Road
Lubbock, TX  79404-5201
Office: 806-748-4410
Fax: 806-748-4312

 I took the wetland delineation course through the wetland training
institute (www.wetlandtraining.com) this past spring and was happy with
it.
the wetland training institute has a really good reputation. it was a
week-long course in sacramento (but they offer courses all over the
country). in contrast to that, I've heard that the richard chinn course
is
terrible so that may be one to avoid.

hope that helps!
amy langston

I recently attended the Basic Wetland Delineator Training course offered
by the Institute for Wetland & Environmental Education & Research.  I
had no prior knowledge of the subject, other than a reasonable
familiarity of the hydrophytic vegetation.  I found the course very
educational, well presented and involved a good mix of classroom and
field exercises.  The Institute requires that you pass a take home exam
in order to receive a certificate of training.  This was a challenging
exercise, but it does make you learn the material.  I was very satisfied
with this course and the cost is less than others that I found on the
internet.  I am in Florida and the instructors were knowledgeable of
Piedmont and Coastal Plains areas of the Southeast.  Depending on where
you live, you may have different instructors, but the course syllabus is
set by the Institute.  I would recommend that you go to their webpage
and check it out.  www.wetlanded.com

Good luck
Rick Walker
  Rick Walker    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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