I was impressed by the clarity of Wayne Tyson's statement of the  question.  
The question does deserve an answer.  I am quite sure I can  refute the points 
made by Monbiot.  My chosen work is to deal with the  energy problem, looking 
for solutions.  The problem here is whether I  should devote the time 
required to make a proper reply, or if I should focus on  finding solutions.
 
If you will forgive me, for now I will just offer a general criticism that  
applies to most papers like Monbiot's.  These writers usually focus on the  
problems and don't think through the opportunities.  For example,  inevitably 
there is a cry about the amount of farmland and fresh water that must  be redir
ected to biofuel crops.  The answer to this is simple-- I agree, we  should not 
detract from food needs to grow fuels.  But, is that an  essential part of 
biofuel production?  Do we need fresh water, wouldn't  deep ocean water, rich 
in 
phosphorus and nitrogen, be a much better  source?  Would cyanobacteria 
provide a better biofuel "crop," in which case  there may not be a competition 
for 
farmland?  Lastly, are we sure that a  suitable fermentation process can't 
provide both useful food and fuel at the  same time?
 
I am distressed by the almost constant clamor that the U.S. will need "x  
percent more energy" by some future date.  This is simply ignoring part of  the 
solution.  We can live very well with much less energy, as other  advanced 
countries have already demonstrated.  And, if we put our shoulders  behind 
finding 
better technology, we can live very well indeed.  As an  example, I just 
finished a calculation, defining a new transportation vehicle  that is able to 
travel (in air) at 200 mph carrying 8 passengers and with a  fuel economy of 
113 
miles per gallon.  That's five times more efficient  than today's best 
transportation system (the Greyhound bus at 160  passenger-miles per gallon).  
With a 
well-developed "bus system" using this  new vehicle, U.S. transportation 
requirements could be met with about one-tenth  of current fuel needs, all 
supplied very nicely by biofuels.
 
Let's stop crying about the problems and get to work.  I get depressed  when 
I read about foolish men tearing up precious ecosystems to make fuel.
 
THE GREATEST DANGER TO EARTH'S DIVERSITY IS GLOBAL WARMING.  
We must stop burning fossil carbon!
 
Ernie Rogers
 
>> Is there anyone on this list who can refute the
>>  essential points made in this article?
>
> I don't think so.   It's a question of quantity.  Even
> if we devote large amounts of  cropland to ethanol
> crops (substantially reducing food production in  the
> process), there's no way to replace
> soon-to-be-dwindling oil  supplies even as demand keeps
> increasing.  The "hard science" can  be found in
> countless posts at www.theoildrum.com and  elsewhere.
>
We need to stop worrying about global warming and
start  figuring out how we will cope with an economic
collapse driven by the  inability of fuel supply to
keep up with demand.  The subsequent  demand
destruction won't solve the problem either, because
falling demand  will be chasing falling supply levels.

JG








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