I guess I am pretty much a polar opposite attitudewise to the views
expressed in this post. Human beings are not disk drives. The purpose of
education is to learn how to do things, and to understand things. Recall
does not equal learning. It really doesn't matter that much if you spell
words like rarefaction wrong every once in a while. It does matter,
however, if you do or do not know why we use rarefaction, even though it
doesn't really matter if you can do the calculations from memory, or
just plug the data into a computer. The value (from education) is
knowing when to use rarefaction, which obviously requires an
understanding of why you might want to rarefy the odd sample from time
to time...regardless of how well you spell the word!

Again, JMHO, but lecture based ecology courses aren't of much use. In
my specialty, Plant Ecology, we survey local forests for diversity. We
did look more at ground cover and other issues, but that degrades to a
taxonomic excercise far too quickly, so now we just look at trees. I
really like the Alwyn Gentry method of surveying forests. Ten 50 X 2
meter transects and look at several localities. Gives students a chance
to get to know the local forests and collect and analyze field data.
Fisher's alpha is a pretty good parameter and it is easy enough to
calculate so that just about anyone can calculate it by hand if
necessary, but many students program their calculators (IMHO it is also
better than most if not all others because, IMHO, it reveals the
underlying pattern of diversity better; may have more or fewer rarer
species from time to time, but overall, the log model is a good
"average"...and we discuss this issue in class). I have presented this
to high school teachers, who can use it in their schoolyard, local
parks, or even along a city street, and about half a dozen teachers, at
least, have used it.

So we spend all our time collecting and analyzing data. We look at
methods of analysis, but not to memorize them and regurgitate them once
or twice and then perform a hippocampal flush, but to see if they help
us with our data. At the end of the day, students seem to understand the
nature of biological diversity a lot better, have a lot better
appreciation of local forests and have some real understanding of what
real ecologists actually do....if the fool notion of becoming an
ecologist even wanders across their mind!

Rob Hamilton



"So easy it seemed once found, which yet
unfound most would have thought impossible"

John Milton
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Department of Biological Sciences
Mississippi College
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Clinton, MS 39058
Phone: (601) 925-3872 
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>>> Malcolm McCallum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/24/2007 4:45
PM >>>
Most highschool teachers have multiple courses under their belt in
anatomy, physiology and general organismal biology.  They have a well
rounded education in biology with only a single course in ecology.

When they teach biology they have that broad background to draw off of.

If they teach ecology they have virtually no background to draw off
of.

Its is atune to having a person with one math class teach algebra. 
And,
we already have enough of that going on in the schools today.  I know
of
one person who teaches math and science and doesn't have but a few
courses.  If the coursework and degrees don't matter, then why even
have
them?  Ecology is not an introductory course!

I do not think it is wise unless the teacher has special education in
the
discipline, and then, I still see no point in watering down the
highschool
curriculum with more advanced courses, when the basics are barely
fulfilled.  If the teachers aren't covering the material in general
biology because they are unable to finish the book, its time to raise
the
standards and make them finish the book.  The text "Modern Biology" if
they are still using it, simply isn't that difficult to complete. 
Place
some expectations on the students beyond tying their shoelaces. 
Expect
them to read something outside of class.  IF students were expectations
in
reading, writing, and even math were implemented in the general
biology
course, maybe the class would make it to the end of the book!  Why? 
because the students who don't care would not take the class and slow
it
up.

On Mon, September 24, 2007 3:13 pm, Larry T. Spencer wrote:
> Here's my two cents.  Personally, I would rather have students come
> away from high school with a positive feeling for science and I
think
> that they might be achieved more readily by teaching ecology and
> evolution than teaching the Krebs cycle and cell metabolism (not to
> denigrate those topics). I think it might be easier for a student to
> see the idea of hypothesis and hypothesis testing in ecology than in
> the normal science course. The fact that ecology can also be taught
> from a quantitative viewpoint could also mesh well with the math the
> student is taking in other hs classes and perhaps math teacher and
> biology teacher could work together such as they often do at the
middle
> school level.
>
> In any case, the fact that the teacher lacks a Ph.D. is not really
> germane to the teaching of ecology or any science at the hs level. 
If
> that were true the teacher would need a Ph.D. to teach the Krebs
cycle
> and other topics.
>
> Larry
>
>
> --
> Larry T. Spencer, Professor Emeritus of Biology
> Plymouth State University
>
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