Neil Bryan says

" No, we exceeded carrying capacity in the 1800's, but then, instead of =
> rolling over like the dodo, we innovated and increased the carrying =
> capacity."
>

Someone else said that carrying capacity was two billion.

I have a little problema with all that.  First carrying capacity is a  
moving target.  We have constantly modified our carrying capacity in  
the strict sense of the word by increasing agricultural efficiency and  
by land conversion.  If by carrying capacity, we are talking about the  
ability of a population to feed itself and not decline, then no-one  
really knows what hte carrying capacity is.

Second, we need to be asking, not just about one carrying capcities,  
buyt the consequences of different carrying capacities.  For example,  
if you like to maintain natural environments with healthy populations  
of other large critters, then there is a good chance that we have  
already exceeded CC for that purpose.

On the other hand, if you don't mind a future that looks something  
like Blade Runner, then bring on the babies!

OK, I am being simplistic, but I think the point is valid:  any  
statement about Carrying capacity has to be seen in terms of the  
ecological consequences of maintaining a certain population at a  
certain living standard.

Best,

Andy Park

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