In an attempt to reduce the amount of useless information that I posted I
had only provided the information that I thought was necessary for my
question to be answered accurately. However, given how this has spiraled
into a huge debate with me being a fictitious troll I guess I will inform
the readers of Ecolog about my life story.

I finished my MS at Ball State last spring. At that time Ball State was
working towards converting their EdD program to a PhD program. I enjoyed
working with my advisor so I decide to remain at Ball State as an EdD
student with the intentions of switching to a PhD when it started.
The economy then continued to decline and so did the likelihood of the
PhD program becoming a reality. Now here I am a year in on a 4yr EdD
program. A program that unlike many of the other EdD programs described
allows me to purse research in any direction I want (looking at factors
influencing large river cyprinid communities, no research in education).
So I posted a question to Ecolog subscribers, because I thought who better
to ask than future colleges.

I intend to publish, in fact I am coauthor on a couple of published papers
and lead author on a paper in the revision stages. Based on the response
that I have received it seems that for many subscribers I could publish in
ecology twice a year and still be unemployable at a research institution.
At this stage in the game I would love to end up working at a university
that had a MS program.  Stream ecology is my passion and I enjoy research
more than teaching, but I thought I may be able to do both with an EdD.

I apologize for filling subscribers with numerous emails on a topic that I
only expected a handful of responses. I want to thank everyone who has
sent me an emails personally (dozens of people). In the future I will and
abstain from asking controversial questions (didn't realize this was one).
If any one wishes to know more about my situation, please ask. I look
forward to seeing many of you this weekend at Early Career Scientist
Symposium: Using Phylogenies in Ecology conference at U of M.

Jay Beugly
Current EdD student
Ball State University

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