This can also go against you too! I have interviewed at many schools but have never been asked about education courses. In fact, if one was to take education courses, my sibling who teaches secondary education recommend courses in classroom management, testing and grading methods, and maybe educational psychology. He has a less complimentary view of the remaining courses! Again, I think these might help one be an effective teacher, but I am not convinced that most professors are going to even look for them on your transcripts...however, you could mention it on your teaching statement. Education courses might be more important at schools where many faculty conduct pedagogy research or have previously taught at primary or secondary levels. Also, small 'teaching' schools might find these particularly attractive. Larger mid-major and major schools such as regional state university and research schools will likely not care about these. Also, if the school is a megaresearch powerhouse such as an AAU school, it might go against you!
This is my perception, I have not collected or analyzed data on it, so please, do your research before you take what I say as gospel! Malcolm McCallum On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Tiffany M. Doan <tiffp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Even though an Ed.D. may not be favorably considered to get a university > position, I think that having education classes definitely would. During my > last interview for an assistant professor position I was asked if I ever had > any education courses (which I haven't). Also, during our last search, when > I was a member of the search committee, we discussed favorably candidates who > had an education background, but they all had Ph. D.s. > Tiffany Doan > > > Tiffany M. Doan, Ph. D. > Associate Professor > Department of Biology > Central Connecticut State University > 1615 Stanley Street > New Britain, CT 06050 > Phone: 860-832-2676; Fax: 860-832-2594 > http://www.biology.ccsu.edu/doan/ > > > "There is grandeur in this view of life. . . from so simple a beginning > endless forms most beautiful and wonderful have been, and are being, > evolved." --Charles Darwin > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Jay Beugly <jsbeu...@bsu.edu> wrote: > > > From: Jay Beugly <jsbeu...@bsu.edu> > Subject: [ECOLOG-L] EdD vs PhD > To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:50 PM > > > I have indeed decided to pursue a PhD, but I thought that I would take this > opportunity to inform ECOLOG subscribers about some of the misconceptions > with an EdD. > > The university that I am currently enrolled in has two EdD options. The most > common option is a doctorate of education in science education. The science > education option is designed for individuals interested in K-12 education > (Not me). > > The second option is a doctorate of education in science. It is designed for > students who have interest in research but are more interested in teaching > at the university level. The second option requires a research project that > provides a significant contribution to your research area (fish ecology in > my case) and 4 courses specifically designed for teaching at the university > level. Based on the responses I have received it seems unlikely that I would > be granted an interview if my vitae included EdD and not a PhD. > > Jay Beugly > jsbeu...@bsu.edu > > This is a quick review of some of the responses I have received for those of > you who are interested. > > EdD won’t qualify you to teach in a university’s biology department > > EdD is a BS with makeup > > EdD qualifies you to teach high school only > > Multiple respondents had never heard of an EdD > > NSF identifies an EdD as a research doctorate equivalent to a PhD > > Many, but not all, respondents with a PhD viewed the EdD very negatively. It > appears that earning an EdD make working with or amongst PhDs more difficult > due to some lack of respect > > > > > > -- Malcolm L. McCallum Associate Professor of Biology Texas A&M University-Texarkana Editor, Herpetological Conservation and Biology http://www.herpconbio.org Fall Teaching Schedule & Office Hours: Ecology: M,W 1-2:40 pm Cell Biology: M 6-9:40 pm (don't ask!) Forensic Science: T,R 10-11:40am Office Hours: MW 12-1, 5-6, TR 11:40-12:30, 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. Gilbert 1990's: Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss, and pollution. 2000: Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction MAY help restore populations. 2022: Soylent Green is People! Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
