I agree with Malcolm's posting that strict vegetarianism has its own problems, but the basic idea of eating lower on the food chain certainly has some benefits. This is particularly true where fish are concerned - most of the land animals killed for food are herbivores, but the most prized fish tend to be carnivores. This has raised a lot of concern.

However I think that we should encourage people to think about the problem and make suggestions, even though we may disagree with some of them. Arrogant putdowns like the one below don't encourage people with ideas to speak out, and some of them may even have good ideas that should not be suppressed.

Bill Silvert


----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Lee" <benjaminjames...@gmail.com>
To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Are ecologists the problem?


Maybe ESA could conduct a poll of members that live in highly populated
desert areas that by definition are unsustainable like Tempe, Arizona. Or
maybe vegans and vegetarians should not brag about themselves over the
ECOLOG listserv.

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