Ecolog and Bill Silvert:


I apologize in advance for the length of this post; I didn't have time to write a shorter one. (I will be incognito for about 30 days beginning in a couple of days, so some of my responses may be delayed--but I will respond when able.)



For the record, I do not disagree with Bill's statement; I'm only concerned with misrepresentations and carelessness--and what Goethe termed "ignorance in action." Goethe may have been something of a snob, but he also might have been correct (rather than politically correct, which often boils down to intellectual conformity). Undoubtedly he was wrong a lot too!



My question has to do with whether or not faking for money rather than contributing to truth (including art) the best way we can is of concern to ecologists or not. A bigger concern lies in the grey area of making a mistake (no one is immune to error), but being unwilling to admit it and correct it. My question is not limited to film, although I did use Palmer's book as an example. Perhaps Palmer went too far, perhaps he, too, made mistakes, but do mistakes invalidate the validity of all the author's points?



In an earlier post, I asked about a paragraph from a book by David Attenborough. I did not criticize Attenborough, I only questioned some of his statements (comments from Ecolog subscribers pointed out that he was anthropomorphizing, perhaps considered necessary to enlighten the unenlightened, as some implied). Attenborough and other hard-working people deserve credit for their accomplishments, and cherry-picking a few mistakes should never detract from their accomplishments. I am well aware of the unfortunate habit of "trophy-hunting" among academics and other critics, picking out errors and magnifying them to inflate their own egos or to pump up their reputations. But does that mean that specific instances of error or suspected error should be ignored and the errors perpetuated? Those suggesting errors should rightfully be corrected if the suggestion is in error, but not, I insist, from the basis of authority alone, but through engagement of the actual issues. Fallacy, above all, should be avoided, particularly by those who represent authority. The ultimate credibility of ecology and science is at stake, and scientists and academics above all, should take the lead in intellectual integrity, not be dragged kicking and screaming to it. Authority, to have credibility, must earn it rather than demand it.



Until I saw the paragraph in question, I had a high regard for Attenborough, and that has not changed because of the "errors." Certainly some Ecolog contributors felt that such anthropomorphizing was necessary to get the broader message across to "the public." I wonder, however, if this attitude is a patronizing one, and whether it, and the practices it supports, smartens-up more than it dumbs-down. Does not science largely and fundamentally consist of subjecting itself to question?



I am eager to entertain criticism of this point-of-view that refers to specific statements.



WT



PS: Here is the text of the post referred to above. I am not so concerned with anthropomorphizing in and of itself, but whether or not the implications accurately represent what actually happens in nature, whether or not it leaves an accurate picture or an inaccurate one in the reader's mind. For example, do plant roots have will, a strategy? Do they actually compete? Or do roots develop in the presence of available water and grow through pore spaces at least as large as the diameter of the root tip? How does a person with little or no background in natural sciences interpret such statements?



Ecolog:

The following quote has come to my attention:

"To find water, a plant has to position its roots with just as much
precision as it arranges its leaves. If moisture is in very short supply,
then a plant may have to drive a tap root deep into the ground to reach the
water table. Some desert plants have had to develop root systems that are
far deeper than they are tall and extend laterally a very long way beyond
the furthest extent of their foliage. Even if the environment is
well-watered, a plant may still need to compete with others for this
essential commodity, so it positions a network of roots within a few inches
of the soil surface, where it can gather the rain water before others can."
(Attenborough 1995:48-51)

Attenborough, D. 1995. The Private Life of Plants: A Natural History of
Plant Behavior. London: BBC Books. 320 p.

Can anyone attest to the accuracy of, or refute this statement, particularly
with reference to a plant "finding" water, "positioning" its roots with
"precision," "driving" a tap root to "reach" the water table, and
"positions" a network of roots . . . "where it can gather the rain water
before others can?"

WT



----- Original Message ----- From: "William Silvert" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:17 AM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Faking: was Naturefaking in media


This morning a friend of mine referred me to a video on FaceBook which was
almost totally faked - it was a video about the dangers of drinking and
driving, very well done, very effective, and very realistic. I cannot
imagine anyone making such a video without faking it, hiring actors, using
computer graphics and so on. Of course one can shoot film of wrecks and
grieving relatives, but how do you get quality shots of the critical events
leading up to an accident, the drinking, the stumbling out to the car, the
erratic driving, the blurred vision?

Photography is an art, and much art is devoted to telling true stories with or without the detailed records that scientists like to use to back up their
research. Raskolnikov was a totally ficticious character and Dostoyevsky
made him up -- fakery -- but Crime and Punishment is a classic because it
uncovers a corner of human nature that psychologists have had virtually no
success at documenting with hard facts.

Perhaps this discussion has reached a point where no meeting of minds is
possible -- some of you feel that only film which is actually shot in the
wild should be used for nature documentaries, but for me the critical issue
is whether a real story is accurately told -- how the film-maker gets his
shots does not matter to me (assuming of course no violent or abusive
tricks).

Bill Silvert


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