That someone would suggest that 19 authors is equivalent to "6 times as much 
peer review" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of peer review.  Nature 
itself lists "independence from the authors and their institutions" first among 
criteria for referees. To suggest that authors serve as their own peer 
reviewers is like suggesting that U.S. banks regulate themselves. The fact of 
the matter is that the commentary was not peer reviewed.


"The authors included journal editors quite familiar with the scientific 
publication process, very practiced writers and meticulous reviewers." The 
problems with mis- and and self citation, misrepresentation or at least gross 
oversimplification of facts, lurid language and sophomoric rhetorical tricks 
suggest that either not all the authors read the final draft or collectively 
they and the Nature editorial process failed to produce a paper that can 
withstand scrutiny and command respect.  I am asking Nature to review its 
editorial process for commentaries, based on the present case. 


There is a serious issue here, but it is one of nuance. I would have expected a 
commentary in Nature to lead the way  toward consensus, not to regurgitate 
extremes of a debate.


David Duffy






Matt Chew wrote:"An observation or two: an opinion paper with 19 authors 
effectively receives
6 times as much peer review in the process of its drafting and revision as
any typical research paper receives under normal circumstances. The authors
included journal editors quite familiar with the scientific publication
process, very practiced writers and meticulous reviewers.  Nature was under
no obligation to publish the piece if it failed to meet their standards.  We
were under no obligation to submit one that didn't meet our standards.  Our
purpose in writing was to expand a conversation already well underway by
presenting our views formally and in the most accessible and noticeable
forum possible.  That is readily distinguishable from trying end a
conversation by telling you what to think.  Indeed, we are encouraging you
to critically examine issues that are most often presented as axiomatic.
Some of you are doing just that.  We appreciate your efforts, and we are
paying attention.

Matthew K Chew
Assistant Research Professor
Arizona State University School of Life Sciences"

David Cameron Duffy Ph.D.
Professor/PCSU Unit Leader/CESU Director
PCSU/CESU/Department of Botany
University of Hawaii Manoa
3190 Maile Way, St John 410
Honolulu, HI 96822 USA
Tel 808-956-8218, FAX 808-956-4710
http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/duffy/




----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Chew <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:10 am
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] EcoTone: Speaking of species and their origins
To: [email protected]

> An observation or two: an opinion paper with 19 authors 
> effectively receives
> 6 times as much peer review in the process of its drafting and 
> revision as
> any typical research paper receives under normal circumstances. 
> The authors
> included journal editors quite familiar with the scientific 
> publicationprocess, very practiced writers and meticulous 
> reviewers.  Nature was under
> no obligation to publish the piece if it failed to meet their 
> standards.  We
> were under no obligation to submit one that didn't meet our 
> standards.  Our
> purpose in writing was to expand a conversation already well 
> underway by
> presenting our views formally and in the most accessible and 
> noticeableforum possible.  That is readily distinguishable 
> from trying end a
> conversation by telling you what to think.  Indeed, we are 
> encouraging you
> to critically examine issues that are most often presented as 
> axiomatic.Some of you are doing just that.  We appreciate 
> your efforts, and we are
> paying attention.
> 
> Matthew K Chew
> Assistant Research Professor
> Arizona State University School of Life Sciences
> 
> ASU Center for Biology & Society
> PO Box 873301
> Tempe, AZ 85287-3301 USA
> Tel 480.965.8422
> Fax 480.965.8330
> [email protected] or [email protected]
> http://cbs.asu.edu/people/profiles/chew.php
> http://asu.academia.edu/MattChew

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