Sorry to pile on to this discussion, but in recent years I have been working with many professional schools who really detest AP credits (especially biology and calculus). If students who plan on going to medical school or pharmacy school etc, they should be advised that those AP courses should not represent terminal experiences. Thus AP credits for Cal 1 and 2 should be followed up at the university with the next math course ion the sequence. One unnamed dean of a medical school recently told me they were no longer counting any AP credits that were required for Admission to their school, even though undergraduate programs may have done so.
Students should be advised that grabbing many AP credits in HS may not provide them the end goal they seek. ################################### Charles R. Bomar PhD Applied Science Program Director Executive Director, Orthopterists' Society Professor of Biology 331D Jarvis Hall University of Wisconsin-Stout Menomonie, WI 54751 [email protected] office 715-232-2562 fax 715-232-2192 -----Original Message----- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David L. McNeely Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Treatment of Ecology in AP classes I can't speak directly to the question of whether the classes provide adequate coverage of any given topic. Consulting the AP web site confirms your suspicion that ecology coverage comes last in the course. And of course, whether any given topic is covered adequately is strictly dependent on the school and the teacher, not the topical listing on the web site. I can say, from having served as a grader for the AP Biology exam, that ecology is well covered on the exam. That said, I also suspect that ecology may be a subject that gets less than full coverage in some of the classes because of sequencing. Also, it is typically covered in most intro biology courses late in the second semester if a two semester course. So, if you are wanting to assign credit according to coverage (seems to make sense), the proposal to give credit for the ecology portion of your course may be out of sync with the sequencing in the AP course. FWIW, I have long had a problem with AP coursework. Many schools likely do a good job with it -- but, and I know, I am an old school curmudgeon -- if these kids are ready for college, just send them to college. If they are not ready, don't let a high school offer them college level courses. But of course, that is a fight long ago lost. mcneely ---- "Corbin wrote: > Hello Ecologgers - My department is trying to figure out how to best assign > credit to incoming students who get 4's and 5's on the AP Biology exam. One > proposal is to give them credit for the first class in our Intro Bio > sequence, which happens to be the one that presents ecology (along with > evolution and genetics). > > I suggested that this would be a mistake, as ecology is likely given short > shrift in many high school classes because it is at the end of all of the > textbooks. Quite reasonably, I've been challenged as to whether that is > really the case. > > Does anyone know of any comparison of the weight given to various biology > subjects (e.g. ecology, physiology, cell, etc.) in high school classes and > the AP exam? I still have a suspicion that ecology is the most likely to be > rushed or dropped, but maybe that's just because it is what happened when I > took it. In any case, I'd be on firmer ground if I had even one piece of > evidence to back it up! > > Thanks! > > -Jeff > > *************************** > Jeffrey D. Corbin > Department of Biological Sciences > Union College > Schenectady, NY 12308 > (518) 388-6097 > *************************** -- David McNeely
