Hi all,

As a biology major recently graduated, as well as a science and math tutor,
I have also seen the trouble of AP credits in science programs. Many of my
peers who "think" they are ready for college-level science from AP classes
seem to struggle the most. I also tend to be old-fashioned in thinking that
AP coursework tends to be weak and any credit should be given to electives
or non-major classes.

Like somebody mentioned earlier, if students are ready for college, just
send them to college. I think Head Start and Running Start programs are far
more successful than AP and honors programs in high school.

Joey Smokey
WSU Vancouver

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Corbin, Jeffrey D. <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hello Ecologgers - Thank you for your quick and numerous responses to my
> query about the treatment of ecology in AP classes. I received a wide range
> of responses and suggestions. Some summaries:
>
> Regarding the coverage of ecology in high school AP classes:
>
> -          Based on the College Board's published coverage of biology
> material, ecology is 10% of the test. This is comparable to the percentage
> for cells, evolutionary biology, and heredity. ("Structure and function of
> [organisms]" gets a much larger 32%, but that also encompasses many topics)
>
> -          The logical point was made that if a student received a 4 or 5,
> then the student must have retained enough of the ecology material.
>
> -          Several current or former H.S. teachers emailed me to say  that
> ecology is well-covered.
>
> -          However, I also received far more comments from individuals who
> said that their own AP class barely, if at all, covered ecology. Anecdotal
> evidence yes, but it was a common comment
>
> Regarding the awarding of credit in college:
>
> -          I agree with the comments of many that to award credit to
> biology majors for a high school class is to place a lot of faith in high
> school instruction without any oversight.
>
> -          Many institutions offer no credit; many others offer non-major
> credit for a 4 or 5 on the AP.
>
> If nothing else, this informal survey did forestall a hasty decision on
> our part, and I think we are going to do a more complete survey of what is
> common for Colleges and Departments like ours.
>
> Thanks again for all of the generous responses.
>
> -Jeff
>
> ***************************
> Jeffrey D. Corbin
> Department of Biological Sciences
> Union College
> Schenectady, NY 12308
> (518) 388-6097
> ***************************
>

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