Here is one example of new costs (read the second url especially). State colleges and universities that offer distance learning out of state must be licensed by the other states. If you have one student or 100 from state x, you have to get licensed by that state. The other states, since it is not their money, have no incentive to minimize costs. Some appear to be simple shakedown artists. Others may simply not have the capacity (legal or human) to handle so many license applications.
This was intended to rein in fly by night correspondence schools. Will it work? Your call. Does it hurt education opportunities for students and increase costs of distance education for responsible institutions and their students? Now imagine hundreds of similar compliance demands and their costs lurking like icebergs below the surface of university budgeting. see http://wcet.wiche.edu/advance/state-approval "State Authorization--An Introduction On October 29, 2010, the U.S. Department of Education (USDOE) released new “program integrity” regulations. One of the regulations focused on the need for institutions offering distance or correspondence education to acquire authorization from any state in which it "operates.” This authorization is required to maintain eligibility for students of that state to receive federal financial aid. Institutions have until July 1, 2014, to have obtained the appropriate approvals. Meanwhile, institutions are required to demonstrate a 'good faith' effort to comply in each state in which it serves students. While the regulation has been 'vacated' by court orter, we believe it will be reinstated." see this for estimated costs of this program for different institutions: http://wcet.wiche.edu/wcet/docs/state-approval/StateAuthorizationCostsofCompliance04-08-11.pdf David Cameron Duffy Ph.D. Professor/PCSU Unit Leader/CESU Director PCSU/CESU/Department of Botany University of Hawaii Manoa 3190 Maile Way, St John 410 Honolulu, HI 96822 USA Tel 808-956-8218, FAX 808-956-4710 http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/duffy/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Meiss <[email protected]> Date: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:22 am Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] UC-Berkeley and other 'public Iv ies'in fiscal peril To: [email protected] > One thing that would help satisfy my curiosity would be to see two > pie-charts showing where college fees go (or went), one for the early > seventies and one for today. How much of the > room/board/tuition goes to > professors' salaries, administrators' salaries, non-teaching > professionals'salaries, to janitors and buildings-and-grounds > workers' salaries, etc. > How much goes to new construction, to maintenance, to grounds > keeping, to > pensions, to fund raising, to compliance, to research, to > scholarships,etc. Does anyone have the data that would go > into making these pie > charts? What shifts would we see? From what > I've read in the previous > posts on this thread, we might see increases of the pie slivers > representing compliance, professors' salaries, administrators' > salaries,and scholarships. Which pie slices will have > gotten smaller to fund these > increases? > > Martin M. Meiss > > 2011/12/29 Dawn Stover <[email protected]> > > > My experience is similar to Martin's, and I inquired about the > high cost > > at my last college reunion. I was told that the reason the > price tag is so > > high is because many students who have the academic > credentials to qualify > > for acceptance come from lower-income backgrounds than in > earlier times. > > The college wants to admit those students to maintain > diversity within the > > student body, so they give them financial aid and subsidize it > by raising > > the price for students who can afford to pay full freight. > > > > When you're calculating the cost of a college education, you > have to > > consider how many students at that college are receiving > financial aid, and > > how much they receive on average. At my alma mater, few > students are paying > > the full price. If they come from a middle-class or low-income > family, they > > typically receive financial-aid packages that can include > grants, loans, > > and on-campus jobs. > > > > One thing that has changed is that many liberal arts colleges > no longer > > can afford to admit 100 percent of their students on a "need- > blind" basis > > (i.e. based on their academic credentials alone). Now many > private, liberal > > arts colleges admit a small (but growing) percentage of > students who are > > slightly less qualified than needier applicants but have the > ability to pay > > the full price. > > > > Dawn Stover > > > > On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Martin Meiss wrote: > > > > > Hi, Rick, > > > I don't think the answer is > that simple. I went to a small, > > private, > > > liberal arts college from 1970 through 1974 and it cost my > father about > > > $3,000 per year for room, board, and tuition. Now it > would cost about > > > $42,000, about a 14-fold increase. Inflation, which > I'm guessing has > > been > > > about three-fold since then, obviously only accounts for a > small part of > > > that, and since it is a private school, declining government > subsidies> are > > > not the reason. The professors haven't all become > millionaires. The > > > campus hasn't been plated with gold. The students > aren't getting an > > > education that is ten times better than what I got. > This is a general > > > trend, not just a phenomenon of my alma mater, and I really > do want to > > know > > > what the hell is going on. My father had a bachelor's > degree, and my > > > annual college costs were about on fifth of his annual > income. I have a > > > PhD and the costs for my kids would be well over half of my annual > > income. > > > > > > Can someone out there tell my why higher education is > becoming something > > > only for the rich? > > > > > > Martin M. Meiss > > > > > > > > > 2011/12/28 Rick Lindroth <[email protected]> > > > > > >> The answer is simple and (nearly) universal: states' > support for higher > > >> education has declined precipitously over recent decades, > especially in > > >> recent years. In essence, states are transfering the > financial burden of > > >> higher education from the general public to individuals > (students and > > >> parents). > > >> > > >> Although tuition increases have been high, they cannot > close the gap; > > >> hence the fiscal peril that public research institutions > now find > > >> themselves in. > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Richard L. Lindroth, Ph.D. > > >> Professor of Ecology, Associate Dean for Research, and > > >> Associate Director of the Agricultural Experiment Station > > >> University of Wisconsin-Madison > > >> Madison, WI 53706 U.S.A. > > >> > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto: > > ECOLOG- > > >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Cherubini > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:29 PM > > >>> To: [email protected] > > >>> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] UC-Berkeley and other 'public Iv > ies'in fiscal > > >> peril > > >>> > > >>>> The University of California at Berkeley subsists now in > > >>>> perpetual austerity. Star faculty take mandatory furloughs. > > >>>> Classes grow perceptibly larger each year. Roofs leak; > > >>>> e-mail crashes. One employee mows the entire campus. > > >>>> Wastebaskets are emptied once a week. Some > > >>>> professors lack telephones. > > >>> > > >>> If all of the above is true, then can someone please > > >>> explain why for 20+ years the annual increase in the > > >>> cost of college tuition has far outpaced the consumer > > >>> price index, heath care, energy costs, etc. > > >>> > > >>> http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?doc_id=1450 > > >>> http://tinyurl.com/6xq6hv > > >>> > > >>> Paul Cherubini > > >>> El Dorado, Calif. > > >> > > > >
