I've had a similar experience, though I'm still working on my masters
degree, when searching for summer jobs. The private sector seems to have a
smokescreen around it to keep from knowing what it's like until you can
find someone with a foot already in the door.

Paul Backus

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Ryan Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

>  After graduating in 2009 I have bounced around a number of jobs, some of
> which were in my career field (ecology), some were not.  So I took the
> advice of my former professors and volunteered.  Since returning from
> France this summer as a volunteer ecologist for A Rocha international (due
> to intense competition and few opportunities) I have been largely unable to
> find a suitable position as an ecologist in the NYC area. I have since
> decided to broaden my search (nation wide), but have run into new
> difficulties.
>
>  The first problem is the wide distribution of information scattered about
> the web.  There seem to be any number of websites with ecological job
> postings which makes it very difficult to search for openings.  So many of
> these sites are inadequate to say the least in terms of ease of use, search
> options, job descriptions, contact information, salary, etc.  Most of these
> small sites are updated infrequently as well.  The larger sites such as
> Monster, are much easier to search and use, but do not list the same
> positions as the smaller sites.
>
>  The second problem is the apparent lack of information and direction
> available concerning ecological work outside of academia.  I am well aware
> of the great number of private companies that hire scientists for any
> variety of work in the private sector, yet there seems to be very little
> anyone can tell me about these companies or the general kinds of work
> available to an ecologist.  I've been able to contact a few people through
> linked in about the companies they work for, but outside of direct contact
> with employees, there is little to be found out about the private sector.
>
>  The third issue that comes to mind are the postings on this list-serve.
> Most postings for job opportunities are for grad students, or research
> assistants with advanced degrees.  I have seen a few postings for work in
> the public sector, but to my knowledge there has not been any mention of
> opportunities within the private sector.  The thought occurred to me that
> there must be other list-serves geared towards job ops in general, yet I
> haven't come across any.  To clarify, the jobs that I have been looking for
> are those that focus primarily on fieldwork and reporting such as baseline
> ecological evaluations, species identification, etc, and less on permitting
> and phase I and phase II assessments.
>
>  I am hoping that some of you will be able to address these issues and/or
> respond with some helpful information in regard to finding a job in the
> private sector that will be worthwhile in terms of gaining knowledge and
> experience in the practical application of ecological principles.
>
> Ryan Metz
>

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