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----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron T. Dossey" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] minor comment but


Actually I strongly reject that assumption. In fact, I found my experiences in academia (for myself and my fellow students/postdocs/postechs/postemps) quite DE-motivating, and often by design. By design I mean, faculty tend not to want their students and posdocs truly developing their own careers in academic research because that represents competition. Most faculty I have been familiar with seek to "capitalize on" graduate students - receive cheap labor, research ideas, intellectual property and relief from as many of their own job responsibilities as possible via students and postdocs.

That's been my experience.

For language, here are some terms I would reject for student/postdoc job ads: opportunity, mentor/mentorship/mentoring, independent (independence only happens when work is going on, but not when the reward comes in, in my experience)... and also listing postdoc positions in the same category/ad sections as faculty on institutional job boards, academic society job listings, etc. is also misleading, as is conveniently leaving out the term "postdoc" from job titles (some government agencies, institutions, etc. do this).

That is my part of view on semantics in this realm.




On 8/26/2012 4:36 PM, Pedro Barbosa wrote:
I think I've now seen about the 50th message in which the 'sender' is "seeking motivated graduate student(s)" Can we simply assume that most academics seek motivated graduate student(s). I don't think I've ever met a colleague that was interested in recruiting an unmotivated student. Minor point but can we just let the obvious, be obvious, but unstated.







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