Thank to all for your responses so far. There may be something in all this
but to be honest I haven't really hit on exactly what I was looking for in
ay of the responses so far.

What I was really looking for is something akin to the Time Heroes of the
Environment issue. I want to know who are the real leaders out there doing
really amazing work, not just a professor taking students on a nature walk.
And absolutely it does not need to be focused on academic biologists in any
way. Biologists in ANY social endeavor and from any industry or employment ­
not even just in ecology (tho of course on this list, that's where most of
you work) - but in some sort of medical or health field, social work, etc ­
both for the vocation or for the volunteering. I got maybe 1 or 2 really
solid examples I could dig into but the rest weren't so in line with what
I'm looking for. I need names and stories and anecdotes off what people
(yourselves or others) are doing ­ projects, etc.

Or, perhaps there isn't a story here.

I like the idea of biologists who testify before Congress and are involved
in various policy endeavors but I need details. When, where, what did you
say, and did it make a difference? That kind of thing. :)

Wendee (yes, formerly Wendee Holtcamp)

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From:  Neahga Leonard <[email protected]>
Date:  Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:57 PM
To:  Wendee Nicole <[email protected]>
Cc:  Ecolog <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [ECOLOG-L] Biologists giving back? Ideas needed

Another good place to look is on town Conservation Commissions.  I worked
with many of them in Vermont.  In that state nearly all the conservation
commissions are staffed by volunteers and many of the people have a biology
or ecology background (though not all).

Many of the conservation initiatives such as Two Countries One Forest or
Algonquin to Adirondacks Conservation Association are comprised nearly
entirely of volunteers as well.

 Nearly all of my friends and associates involved biology/ecology do
something on the side ranging from educational volunteering to providing
free advice to municipalities to staffing food kitchens and much more.

I'd echo what some of the other folks have said about finding a focus for
the question.  There is a lot that people are doing outside of their paid
positions.

Neahga Leonard





On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:08 PM, J. Michael Nolan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Wendee....
> 
> Great question, but I suspected you were going to get some of these responses
> coming in.
> 
> I suggest you come up with something more specific in how to measure this
> contribution you want to write about.
> 
> In short, I think most Educators would like to hear that their Students became
> Biologists of any kind and would thank them forever for their influence. I get
> comments from former Students, not all Biologists, but they still comment
> about the class they had with me. It feels good.
> 
> So, not every Student the Science Educators on this list or in general will
> every become a Scientist of any type.
> 
> I have led groups personally since the age of 20 to many places. Many of those
> people were not Science oriented from day 1 and are not Scientists of any kind
> today.
> 
> We still send groups/individuals to many parts of this amazing Planet.
> Educators want some of their Students to become famous Tropical Ecologists in
> some cases. Not a bad goal and I understand. Not going to happen! Still
> life-altering experiences, they look at their surroundings, their life-style,
> conversations with others, trying to figure out who to vote for, etc., etc.
> with a different and more informed angle. I have led groups and told me they
> still hate Biology, but they had a different grasp on life in general and they
> were thrilled to have had the chance to participate.
> 
> Know you are an excellent writer, measuring this issue is going to get
> arguments from all sides. Am just guessing that the diversity in answers could
> add substance to your article. I know you will, but please tell it from both
> sides.
> 
> Often they will have the same kind of impact. Educators on this list do some
> amazing things and just because you are not a U. level Professor with a Ph.D.
> and working with an NGO,etc. doesn't mean they are not making a contribution.
> 
> Thanks for your time....probably telling you things that you already knew. You
> have traveled, but let me emphasize, making an educational contribution to our
> Planet does not always require a Ph.D. or in some cases, not even a HS
> diploma.
> 
> I would agree 100% with the comments I have included below. We also work with
> many NGO's in other parts of the world that supply us with People that stun me
> on a daily basis with their local and beyond....knowledge.
> 
> Call me or e-mail me, I can give you some very specific examples with
> References.
> 
> *While it is not above and beyond their normal job duties, I'd argue that
> nearly all academic biologists make a substantial contribution to society
> through their teaching (not just their research).  For many of us, teaching
> makes up an equal or greater proportion of our workload than research.  And,
> many of us do give back through service to NGOs and government agencies,
> outreach to the public and school groups, etc.
> 
> 
> *Let me echo that some of us academics are involved in working with
> environmental groups, serving on advisory committees to EPA, NOAA, and state
> environmental agencies etc. I am spending this week in the DC area on an
> advisory committee to NOAA Sea Grant. (It's better to be here than in NJ/NY.)
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Mike Nolan
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