I agree with Judith. I am still working on manuscripts pertaining to the postdoc work I did for which funding ended three years ago. Never for once did I consider it as "abuse" or "slave work". In fact, working on them is one of the few opportunities of enjoyment I have these days (especially when my manuscript submissions get accepted). -GW
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:28:16 -0500, Judith S. Weis <[email protected]> wrote: >That's quite reasonable. Publishing work done in the previous mentor's lab >will be more beneficial to the postdoc's fledgling career than the former >mentor's. It's not the "mentor's work" its the postdoc's work, or their >joint work and the postdoc will likely be the first author. > > >> Related to this is the practice of "letting go" (i.e., not renewing or >> higher-level hiring) post docs and still expecting them to be actively >> engaged in publishing the mentor's work up to a year or more later. >> >> Geoff Patton >> Wheaton, MD >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 14, 2013, at 6:47 PM, David Inouye <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I suspect most faculty fall into this exempt category. >>> >>> http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/fairpay/fs17d_professional.pdf >>> >>> Fact Sheet #17D: Exemption for Professional Employees Under the Fair >>> Labor Standards Act (FLSA) >>> This fact sheet provides general information on the exemption from >>> minimum wage and overtime pay provided by Section 13(a)(1) of the Fair >>> Labor Standards Act as defined by Regulations, 29 CFR Part 541. >>> The FLSA requires that most employees in the United States be paid at >>> least the federal minimum wage for all hours worked and overtime pay at >>> time and one-half the regular rate of pay for all hours worked over 40 >>> hours in a workweek. >>> However, Section 13(a)(1) of the FLSA provides an exemption from both >>> minimum wage and overtime pay for employees employed as bona fide >>> executive, administrative, professional and outside sales employees. >>> Section 13(a)(1) and Section 13(a)(17) also exempt certain computer >>> employees. To qualify for exemption, employees generally must meet >>> certain tests regarding their job duties and be paid on a salary basis >>> at not less than $455 per week. >>> >>> At 06:10 PM 2/14/2013, Aaron T. Dossey <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Doesn't a requirement that a salaried employee work more than 40 hours >>>> (literally or de-facto) violate labor laws? Maybe it's just a matter of >>>> a greater need for <professors, sit down for this one> law enforcement, >>>> accountability and transparency? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/14/2013 3:08 PM, Judith S. Weis wrote: >>>>> It should be strongly recommended to all grad school applicants to >>>>> learn >>>>> about their potential advisors ahead of time by talking to grad >>>>> students >>>>> in that lab and in other labs. That way you can find out about the >>>>> person's attitudes towards grad students having a life, having a >>>>> family >>>>> etc. and whether or not they demand 12-hour days and weekends etc. >>>>> That >>>>> way you know what you will be getting into and can make a more >>>>> informed >>>>> choice of advisor. There are many humane professors out there. I'd >>>>> like to >>>>> think that I have been one of them. >> >=========================================================================
