I cannot imagine any defined term research position (2-3 years) in which all publication of the research done is completed by the time you leave. At least that has not been the case in my employment history. What you were working on in the field, or on the bench-top, the last couple months of any position is more than likely going to be tied up after you leave, unless you completely abandon active research long before termination.
I am still in (albeit now very infrequent) talks with my first PI with whom I stopped working 5 years ago, about data that never found a home, or is being repurposed toward new ends. I think it is a fundamental part of the business, if you do choose to maintain connections with previous mentors/bosses, or if you wish to get the most out of data with limited time officially in a position. Andrew On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM, George Wang <[email protected]>wrote: > I agree with Judith. I am still working on manuscripts pertaining to the > postdoc work I did for which funding ended three years ago. Never for once > did I consider it as "abuse" or "slave work". In fact, working on them is > one of the few opportunities of enjoyment I have these days (especially > when my manuscript submissions get accepted). > -GW > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:28:16 -0500, Judith S. Weis > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >That's quite reasonable. Publishing work done in the previous mentor's lab > >will be more beneficial to the postdoc's fledgling career than the former > >mentor's. It's not the "mentor's work" its the postdoc's work, or their > >joint work and the postdoc will likely be the first author. > > > > > >> Related to this is the practice of "letting go" (i.e., not renewing or > >> higher-level hiring) post docs and still expecting them to be actively > >> engaged in publishing the mentor's work up to a year or more later. > >> > >> Geoff Patton > >> Wheaton, MD > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Feb 14, 2013, at 6:47 PM, David Inouye <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> I suspect most faculty fall into this exempt category. > >>> > >>> http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/fairpay/fs17d_professional.pdf > >>> > >>> Fact Sheet #17D: Exemption for Professional Employees Under the Fair > >>> Labor Standards Act (FLSA) > >>> This fact sheet provides general information on the exemption from > >>> minimum wage and overtime pay provided by Section 13(a)(1) of the Fair > >>> Labor Standards Act as defined by Regulations, 29 CFR Part 541. > >>> The FLSA requires that most employees in the United States be paid at > >>> least the federal minimum wage for all hours worked and overtime pay at > >>> time and one-half the regular rate of pay for all hours worked over 40 > >>> hours in a workweek. > >>> However, Section 13(a)(1) of the FLSA provides an exemption from both > >>> minimum wage and overtime pay for employees employed as bona fide > >>> executive, administrative, professional and outside sales employees. > >>> Section 13(a)(1) and Section 13(a)(17) also exempt certain computer > >>> employees. To qualify for exemption, employees generally must meet > >>> certain tests regarding their job duties and be paid on a salary basis > >>> at not less than $455 per week. > >>> > >>> At 06:10 PM 2/14/2013, Aaron T. Dossey <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > >>>> Doesn't a requirement that a salaried employee work more than 40 hours > >>>> (literally or de-facto) violate labor laws? Maybe it's just a matter > of > >>>> a greater need for <professors, sit down for this one> law > enforcement, > >>>> accountability and transparency? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 2/14/2013 3:08 PM, Judith S. Weis wrote: > >>>>> It should be strongly recommended to all grad school applicants to > >>>>> learn > >>>>> about their potential advisors ahead of time by talking to grad > >>>>> students > >>>>> in that lab and in other labs. That way you can find out about the > >>>>> person's attitudes towards grad students having a life, having a > >>>>> family > >>>>> etc. and whether or not they demand 12-hour days and weekends etc. > >>>>> That > >>>>> way you know what you will be getting into and can make a more > >>>>> informed > >>>>> choice of advisor. There are many humane professors out there. I'd > >>>>> like to > >>>>> think that I have been one of them. > >> > >========================================================================= >
