It's interesting that Kim is from Canada and Robert is from the UK, while
David is from the US. I'm also from the US and I've never heard of a
biology program that didn't require at least one term of calculus, although
I've heard of such things having existed in the past. (BTW, I think linear
algebra is also a very good option.)

I don't know about Canadian universities, but in the UK, students start to
specialize as early as 16, while in the US, specialization is at least
nominally discouraged until the last 2-3 years of college. American science
students usually take calculus in college; as far as I know, students in
the UK tend to do so before college -- and may not do so at all if they
study biology. For Oxford's biology program, math is not an entry
requirement (http://www.biology.ox.ac.uk/admissions.html); students do take
"Quantitative Methods", but this is apparently statistics. I would be very
surprised if any reputable US university allowed this, although the
usefulness of the typical freshman calculus course is debatable. Could the
difference in math requirements be a consequence of early vs. late
specialization?

Jane Shevtsov


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Kim Cuddington <[email protected]> wrote:

> Extremely limited or even no math requirements may be a more common
> feature of biology programs
> than you realize. For example, up until recently, my program required only
> a stats course. It is my
> understanding that this is an increasingly common approach for biology
> programs.
>
> Partially as a result of my efforts, all our biology students now require
> a math course, but it is not
> necessarily a calculus course (linear algebra is an option, and
> non-calculus physics for some reason).
> Don't get me wrong, I think linear algebra is equally necessary, but many
> of our ecology students opt
> for the easier algebra course. Students from another environmental campus
> program on campus
> require no math course at all. Therefore, when I explain concepts as basic
> as exponential growth in a
> 4th year ecology course, I also have to explain the meaning of a
> derivative.
>
> Needless to say, I find the situation ludicrous. Educated students in ANY
> science need to know what a
> derivative is, and educated citizens, regardless of what their university
> major, REALLY need to
> understand exponential population growth. Math is not an optional part of
> any education, let alone a
> science education, but I've seen it being treated that way at at several
> institutions.
>
> Kim Cuddington
> University of Waterloo
> (BTW this is a notoriously "mathy" school)
>



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Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

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doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others

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